Exploding Musketeers

[Taiji]

Is it possible to make gunpowder infantry explode occasionally like cannon do?

Thanks for any help with this!

[Augustus Lucifer]

This is something that would be handled by descr_projectiles.txt, a file which I've never worked with or looked at much as of this juncture. This is the entry for "Exploding Cannon":

projectile exploding_cannon_shot

exploding				cannon_shot
effect 					cannon_ball_medium_set
end_effect				ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_man_effect			man_impact_catapult_set
end_package_effect    	ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_effect		ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_man_effect		man_impact_catapult_set
end_shatter_package_effect		ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set

area_effect		ae_cannon_shot_large
damage			250
damage_to_troops 30
radius			0.3
mass			4.5
area			15.0
accuracy_vs_units		0.065
accuracy_vs_buildings	0.0375
accuracy_vs_towers      0.025 
min_angle		-15
max_angle		30
velocity		90
ground_shatter
body_piercing
;bounce			0.5 0.6 0.5 0.4
display			aimed 
;effect_only
; Stuck model not used at the mo, shatter effect is better, but adding some shatter debris for ground impact would be good?
;stuck
effect_only

and this one if for "Musket Bullet":

projectile musket_bullet

effect					bullet_model_set
end_effect				bullet_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect			man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect    	bullet_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect		bullet_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect		man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect		bullet_impact_wall_set

damage		0
radius		0
mass		0.05
accuracy_vs_units		0.03
min_angle	-60
max_angle	70
velocity	60 85
display		aimed
effect_only

In red in the top entry I highlighted the lines which seem to point to the projectile exploding and the effect of the explosion. Those aren't in the musket entry. It might be as easy as adding them there. Might want to lessen the "area" line some since if you had exploding musket shot it wouldn't have as big of an area. Also, might want to make a new projectile with the copied musket entry and those changes, callit exploding_musket_bullet, and give that to some units, so that not all units have it.

Cheers,
Augustus

[Taiji]

Thanks very much for your reply it was very interesting, however I don't want them to fire an exploding shot I want them to explode themselves.

When you're using cannon they occasionally explode, killing the crew. I want a toned down version of this for gunpowder handweapons.

I suspect this might be hardcoded or only available to siege weapons, but it would be really cool so I had to ask!

[Augustus Lucifer]

type             NE Cannon
dictionary       NE_Cannon      ; Cannon
category         siege
class            missile
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_missile
banner holy      crusade
soldier          NE_Cannon_Crew, 16, 2, 1
engine           cannon
attributes       sea_faring, hardy, can_withdraw, gunpowder_unit, cannon, artillery, explode
formation        1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         6, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, artillery_gunpowder, piercing, knife, 25, 1.8
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         65, 3, cannon_shot, 380, 30, siege_missile, artillery_gunpowder, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    ap, bp, area, launching
stat_pri_armour  4, 4, 0, leather
;stat_armour_ex   4, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, leather
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        1
stat_ground      0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental      9, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 870, 250, 90, 70, 870, 4, 210
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models NE_Cannon_Crew
ownership        hre, sicily,denmark
era 2            hre, sicily, denmark
;unit_info        6, 0, 8

Well this is the EDU entry, they have the explode attribute, not sure how good it would look on a musketeer though, or if it would even work for that matter. The explode attribute isn't defined in the EDU at the top. EDU = export_descr_units.txt by the way. Try adding it to the attributes of the musketeer and see what happens is all I can say.

Cheers,
Augustus

[Taiji]

thanks!!! I'm on it!

EDIT: I found that that attribute is what gives cannon exploding shot. thanks for your help anyway!

[Augustus Lucifer]

The last area it could probably be in is the descr_engines.txt, this is the entry for the cannon engine:

type				cannon
culture				all
class				cannon
pathfinding_data		none
reference_points		siege_engines/siege_cannon.modelReferencePoints

engine_model_group	normal
engine_skeleton		cannon
engine_bone_map	siege_engines/BoneMaps/culverin.xml
engine_collision	siege_engines/collision_models/siege_cannon_collision.CAS
engine_mesh		siege_engines/siege_cannon.mesh, 40.0
engine_mesh		siege_engines/lods/siege_cannon_med.mesh,  80.0
engine_mesh		siege_engines/lods/siege_cannon_low.mesh,  max

engine_model_group	dying
engine_skeleton		cannon_dying
engine_bone_map	siege_engines/BoneMaps/cannon_die.xml
engine_collision	siege_engines/collision_models/siege_cannon_collision.CAS
engine_mesh		siege_engines/destroyed/artillery_destruction.mesh,  max

engine_model_group	dead
engine_collision	siege_engines/collision_models/siege_cannon_collision.CAS
engine_mesh		siege_engines/destroyed/artillery_destroyed.mesh,  max

engine_shadow		none


engine_radius		1.8
engine_visual_radius 2.0
engine_length		2.0
engine_width		1.4
engine_height		1.3
engine_mass			5
engine_dock_dist	1.5
engine_mob_dist		4
engine_flammable    true
engine_ignition		2.5
fire_effect		    engine_fire_small_set

obstacle_shape		drop
obstacle_x_radius	0.5
obstacle_y_radius	1.0

engine_spo physical_obstacle

engine_push_point	dummy	0.0	-1.85
engine_station		dummy	0.0	-1.93

engine_health		10
missile_pos			0.0 1.0 0.0

crew_animations
    crank            	Left_Stoke, crew_left_stoke_1,crew_left_stoke_2, crew_left_stoke_3cycle, crew_left_stoke_4, crew_left
	crank_attachment    Left_Stoke, ramrod
    crank            	Right_Load, crew_right_load_1, crew_right_load_2, crew_right_load_3, crew_right_load_4cycle, crew_right_load_5, crew_right
	crank_attachment    Right_Load, unarmed, load, unarmed
    crank            	Crew_Rear, crew_rear
	crank_attachment    Crew_Rear, unarmed
    fire            	Left_Stoke, crew_left_cover, crew_left
    fire            	Right_Load, crew_right_cover, crew_right
    fire            	Crew_Rear, crew_rear_fire_idle, crew_rear
end

shot_pfx_front		cannon_shot_medium_muzzle_flash_set

All of the areas in red seem curious, but I know next to nothing about the engine file largely because you have to view files I can't open to get the full gist of it.

As well, the attribute "cannon" or "artillery" in the EDU may cause it, neither are explained at the top. I think the top was from CA UK though and CA AU didn't update it with new attributes info and such .

Cheers,
Augustus

[Taiji]

I'd imagine that when it happens it's associated with an animation for the siege engine exploding. Not being a siege engine I'd imagine that nothing happens to a trooper even if he is flagged with the ability to explode.

You've really helped me think about this, augustus.

Thankyou very much for your help!