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Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
"Forget everything the mainstream media tells you about the "cycle of violence" and the "peace process." The conflict in the Middle East boils down to one issue; the imposition of Islam upon the world. Hamas, as a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate, is perfectly open about its desire for a global Islamic caliphate. Such an enemy by definition can never be appeased, and must be destroyed."
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Praeses
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Thats some nice right-wing rhetoric bollocks you've got their, The other groups agrived by the crusades do not hold a grudge against 'the west' while radical muslims use it as a rallying point to both draw new recruits and agitate agression towards the west, it is not some mysterious liberal group that are trying to apologize for the horrific attacks of 9/11 but to try and understant the causes behind them, and the part we and our ancestors played in the current state of the muslim world, we are both jointly responisble for its current state and the current growth of radical islam.
Incidently Great Britain sent not one crusader to the holy land as it did not exist.
The second video is full of glaring historical inaccuracies, and using a contemparary account of the fall of Constantinople is stupid and a blatant attempt to try to legitimize the Islamophobic view of the video, one may as well trust tacitus' discriptions of the Germanic peoples, or Ceasers' discriptions of the Gauls.
To say that no-one is pissed about the fall of Constantinople is a lie, the Greeks on this board seem to want it, why Europe wasn't botherd is because in 1421 they were either Catholic or Protestant and unconcerned with the collapse of a slowly declining and by this point largely irrelevent GREEK ORTHADOX Empire.
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Vicarius
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islamophobic, hehe. Youre such an apologist for the muslims, truly men like you are their best ally in the war agaisnt the west. All he is merely stating is that constantinople was as great a city as Jerusalem and about as holy to christians as Jerusalem was too muslim (it aint no mecca or medina!) so if we followed the logic of an apologist (they say a 800 year old or so sacking of a city is the root cause of all the bombs the muslims seem to heart) then most certainly the sacking of constantinople 500 years ago would be the root cause of all the bombs that have not exploded by greeks for turks and catholics. In the very least this vast difference in responses shows how dangerous, backward, destructive and outright totalitarian worldview must be defeated.
Last edited by Pickle_mole; October 02, 2008 at 09:41 AM.
Primicerius
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Okay, it's Jerusalem though, that's a whole 'nother league. If I am not mistaken they actually prayed towards Jerusalem in early times, but due to political conflicts (I think, I don't exactly remember everything) Muhammad changed the destination to Makkah. I mean, it's the friggin' CITY OF GOD, what do you think?!Originally Posted by Pickle_mole
Mad Nomad Dad
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
You've got nonsense and politics in my history.
Cut it out.
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There's not nearly enough westerners dying in this, these videos suck.
Holy Arab Nation
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Interesting.
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Erm...the videos are full of historical bollocks....it's an amateurish attempt, covered by amateurish non-objective half-research....
read Edward Gibbon...
Vicarius
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I realise it is nothing special but i find it interesting. I would like to know what makes it wrong though, factual errors?
i just realised that, hmmm gotta fix that....
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Oversimplification. It's not objective i.e. It's focusing on one side, and over generalising and over simplifying.
Praeses
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
More factual errors than hairs on my head and balls
Hammer & Sickle - Karacharovo
And I drank it strait down.
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You didn't fix it the right way, remember kids, down the street, not across the road.
Vicarius Provinciae
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More videos of dead Westerners please.
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -- Robert Pirsig
"Feminists are silent when the bills arrive." -- Aetius
"Women have made a pact with the devil in return for the promise of exquisite beauty, their window to this world of lavish male attention is woefully brief." -- Some Guy
Vicarius
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Ya know whats really funny!?! Seeing my uncle's family, or whats left of it! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GOD I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!!
Vicarius Provinciae
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Im gladly laughing with you.
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -- Robert Pirsig
"Feminists are silent when the bills arrive." -- Aetius
"Women have made a pact with the devil in return for the promise of exquisite beauty, their window to this world of lavish male attention is woefully brief." -- Some Guy
Human Directional
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
One day Constantinople will return!
Comes Rei Militaris
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Try it and the Turks will kick your ass.
One day Constantinople will return!
according to exarch I am like
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Artifex
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Agreed! Our Turkish bro's are tough fighters!
Oh, and it's Istanbul now, not Constantinople, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Saviors of the Japanese
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As possible as the Pope regaining control of Rome.
One day Constantinople will return!
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Senator
Re: Keeping the record strait, The Islamic Crusades, a Series
Why do you care so much about this city? It is just a city that the Greeks have not owned for over 500 years. Do you not think that it is time to forget hurt feeling over this city and move on?
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