Scots and Irish

[Meister Sibrand]

Will there ever be these factions in a future version? Or even any other factions? Btw fantastic mod great amount of fun!

[Tharros]

Will there ever be these factions in a future version? Or even any other factions? Btw fantastic mod great amount of fun!

I seriously doubt it. May be NO would be a better answer. The mod is about the English Civil War - adding these is outside the scope. AD has spent a huge amount of time and effort modding M2TW. I think he deserves a break.

[Meister Sibrand]

Take it easy. I wasnt demanding anything. I really enjoy this mod i was just asking if the other british factions would be added in a future release. Dont talk down to me like im demanding for new factions.

[Tharros]

Take it easy. I wasnt demanding anything. I really enjoy this mod i was just asking if the other british factions would be added in a future release. Dont talk down to me like im demanding for new factions.

I am sorry if I came across harshly. I didn't mean to.

[AlphaDelta]

Meister Sibrand,

For now the focus is on the war on the English mainland and the covenanter invasion of the north. In the future there is always the possibility of adding dedicated Royalist scots, Covenanter and Irish Confederate factions, but for the next weeks my focus will be on fixing and fleshing out the original concept.

Cheers

[Meister Sibrand]

Meister Sibrand,

For now the focus is on the war on the English mainland and the covenanter invasion of the north. In the future there is always the possibility of adding dedicated Royalist scots, Covenanter and Irish Confederate factions, but for the next weeks my focus will be on fixing and fleshing out the original concept.

Cheers

alright sounds good and its alright Tharros

[Theodotos I]

Does Drogheda ring a bell with anyone? There's a funny little reason why you wouldn't want to name your dog "Oliver Cromwell" in Ireland to-day.

[Ardruire Iacób]

Does Drogheda ring a bell with anyone? There's a funny little reason why you wouldn't want to name your dog "Oliver Cromwell" in Ireland to-day.

Drogheda may be in Ireland, but it was a 'New' English Royalist fortress, not an Irish Confederate one.

We've already discussed Cromwell and Ireland, look up Why dont they teach kids about The English Civil War in schools in this board.

[Theodotos I]

Drogheda may be in Ireland, but it was a 'New' English Royalist fortress, not an Irish Confederate one.

We've already discussed Cromwell and Ireland, look up Why dont they teach kids about The English Civil War in schools in this board.

I realize, but it's in Ireland. Still Alpha Delta's done a deuce of a lot of work over the last little bit and he deserves a vote of thanks.

EDIT: Didn't mean to sound snobbish in that first post. ECW is not my specialty, but I've read a little bit about it.

[CrayonVonCaesar]

In the future there is always the possibility of adding dedicated Royalist scots, Covenanter and Irish Confederate factions, but for the next weeks my focus will be on fixing and fleshing out the original concept.

Sounds great.

[Pallantides]

Scots and Irish factions would be nifty!

[Prydain]

As Wales was part of England I would like a smaller starting faction like Scotland, I like the idea of starting small and growing larger.

[AWZC]

Although when this mod was in development I was dissapointed about the lack of Irish and Scottish factions, I now realise that this actually improves the game - instead of being a 'Brittania' style campaign the focus is very much on Royalists vs Parliamentarians as it should be.

[Antagonist]

As an advocate of the "Three Kingdoms" analysis of the whole conflict I'd like to see them in, but at the same time I can see the argument (especially given the limitations of the AI) for a two-faction setup. Still, even if not in the campaign ideally they could be available for custom battles, multi etc.

Of course, even if many of the units could be modifications of the existing ones it's still a lot of work to model and skin 2 new factions, and AD deserves both a break and the greatest respect for producing FKoC as it is, but it's nice to see future expansion not ruled out categorically.

Antagonist

[Destraex]

I reckon its good as it is really. A good feature perhaps would be an AI faction that transfers control of its armies to whomever is successfull at getting them to join their factions cause.
But this is unrealistic....

[Pallantides]

I'd rather play as a stand-alone Scottish Covenant Faction.

[Destraex]

Yes I'm sure you would..... but the covenanters were not aggressive. They needed to be convinced to invade England... and even then as an ally of one of the English factions.
So you can play them, as long as you do not invade England without invitation. Kindly sit on your hands for 50 turns

[Pallantides]

Kindly sit on your hands for 50 turns

It's worth the wait.

[Ardruire Iacób]

Yes I'm sure you would..... but the covenanters were not aggressive. They needed to be convinced to invade England... and even then as an ally of one of the English factions.
So you can play them, as long as you do not invade England without invitation. Kindly sit on your hands for 50 turns

They happily invaded Ireland anyway. Or, at least until they were crushed by the Confederates at Benburb.

[Antagonist]

Yes I'm sure you would..... but the covenanters were not aggressive. They needed to be convinced to invade England... and even then as an ally of one of the English factions.
So you can play them, as long as you do not invade England without invitation. Kindly sit on your hands for 50 turns.

FWIW, I would disagree and argue that, at least until the main action of the first ECW was over they were the most "expansionist" of the players in the conflict, fielding significant bodies of troops in campaigns in all 3 kingdoms simultaneously. They "invaded" England in strength 3 times during the period, and threatened several more (indeed, during the Bishop's War that preceeded the ECW they faced down Charles with an army in better shape than his own) to say nothing of their campaign in Ireland, and would almost certainly have done more if not for Montrose's several insurrections in Scotland itself. It's true that neither they nor the Confederates ever explicitly disowned both King and Parliament and unilaterally "fought the English" but this has more to do with particular circumstances than inability IMO - every intervention by forces from one kingdom into another was nominally in support of the king or of beleaguered coreligionists or whatever. If the first ECW had been a significant Royalist victory, for example, it's not hard to envisage a unilateral Covenanter offensive against Charles.

A seperate covenanter vs Scottish Royalists campaign would be a lot more interesting I think. Not that it's going to happen, but anyway.

A mini-campaign for during Montrose and MacColla's "Year of Miracles" sounds it like it could be amazing, but the amount of campaign work and scripting would no doubt be prohibitive. I'd settle for the chance to field them in battle. :



Antagonist