A great weapon

[eizo]

I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with -- stone clubs

I think i have an idea how this new weapon looks like,around 2000 when democracy broke out in Serbia it was led by a organization that came out of nowhere and suddenly this movement (Otpor) did what several demonstrations led by much bigger political party's with all US aid in Serbia did not,it brought down Milosevic and the evil witch.
But here's what's interesting i didn't even notice it much but as pro-western (read pro-US) revolutions started comming up across Europe i did notice that all in every single one of them thers a part played by organisation that either has same slogans or same symbols and in same case much of the people that led Serbian wing of organisation now lead it in some other state,and what is interesting even those people who led it eventually came to power they give it up so easy and banish,they are rearly if ever on TV or any other media whatsoever kinda interesting.
Here's something for those who like to read whole posts before getting into a fight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor
this is the part that's "funny" to me

In addition to greatly contributing to Slobodan Milošević's overthrow, Otpor has become the model for similar youth movements around Eastern Europe.[3] For this Otpor members have been called "revolution exporters". [4].

Otpor members were instrumental in inspiring and providing hands-on training to several other civic youth organizations in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, including Kmara[5] in the Republic of Georgia (itself partly responsible for the downfall of Eduard Shevardnadze), Pora in Ukraine[6][7] (which was part of the Orange Revolution), Zubr[5] in Belarus (opposing the president Alexander Lukashenko), MJAFT![8] in Albania, Oborona[9] in Russia (opposing the president Vladimir Putin), KelKel [10] in Kyrgyzstan (active in the revolution that brought down the president Askar Akayev), Bolga in Uzbekistan[11] (opposing Islom Karimov) and Nabad-al-Horriye.[12] in Lebanon. A similar group of students was present in Venezuela against democratically elected Hugo Chávez.

Otpor logo

and some sister organisations



Now while kicking Milosevic in the nuts was nice i was wondering does anybody else think that if this power could be used on a democratic state just becouse US decides they are Evvvvviiiiilllll...

For example here's one of the rare organisations that was openly mentioned by otpor leaders as a place where they gave away a lot of ideas
http://www.canvasopedia.org/content/about/about.htm

Who we are

CANVAS trainers and consultants are world-wide recognized experts from Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine and South Africa, with experience in battling for democracy in their own countries, and involved in knowledge transferring to 24 different groups in the world.

Maybe that's just me but to me that does not sound as "hold-hands-student organisation"
Oh almost forgot for all you conspiracy theory lovers here's who brought otpor to my state
http://www.mpri.com/main/
and take a look at this part
http://www.mpri.com/main/capacitybuilding.html
About Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO) that they are willing to "offer" to all kinds of states aka develop them cute huh

So is democracy safe in any state today ?

[Oklop]

Well, I work in a travel agency for years and funnily people from "NGOs" were usually booking flights to Kiev right before the "orange revolution" and they came back a few days before the "revolution". This was from Macedonia, and my colleagues in Serbia said that the same thing happened there and the Otpor guys were the ones doing the traveling (and probably consulting)

And the funniest thing is that all the tickets were paid by Soros fundation.

I put NGO in "" because you can not be an NGO and receive funding from governments.

Edit: and nice observation Eizo

[alhoon]

They don't sound like "respectable" people to me.

[eizo]

another cute thing the organisation that funded almost all "otpor" actions and who brought them here look who are it's directors


President, General (US Army, Retired) Carl E. Vuono
Executive Vice President, General (US Army, Retired) Ronald H. Griffith
It's interesting how retired US army generals care so much for freedom in Georgia,Serbia and so forth yet it was them amoung other people who provided army training for Croatian and Muslim sides during the war in Bosnia and they are still there

MPRI Headquarters

The MPRI corporate staff is located in Old Town Alexandria, Virginia. Other offices include:

* Newport News, Virginia
* Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas
* Columbia, Maryland
* Salt Lake City, Utah

MPRI operates in more than 40 countries with major offices in:

* Kabul, Afghanistan
* Baghdad, Iraq
* Kuwait City, Kuwait
* Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina

[FirstManOnTheMoon]

Can't say I adore them.