Money issue?

[Attack-Monkey]

Are the expenses supposed to be that high at the start? I'm getting like
-4000 plus income on the bulgarians in the late era.

[DaVinci]

Are the expenses supposed to be that high at the start? I'm getting like
-4000 plus income on the bulgarians in the late era.

Welcome.
I don't wanna leave you alone with this post, but, only short: This is discussed and explained in several threads/posts (incl. tips for the gameplay how to reduce the effect), and the answers/explanations about this occurence are also in the stickied info threads.

[Ektoras1]

I have the same problem with the sicilien. and Im like 30 turns in to the caimpaign in the high era.

I got alot of cityes, but still my income don't move its still on around 11k. and I don't buy any units. because Im around 90k in the RED

is it a bug?

[Grimmy]

Not a bug. The mod is set up to make it hard to expand early on in the game. Many times it is necessary to disband most of your starting army and spend turn time on building up your economy to the point that you can afford an army.

[ElSypatiko]

But the problem is the ai doesn't disband units .
I read that he even gets kings purse depend of the level u are playing.
So we all try to survive the first storm and than payback time
Gtx

[Jaketh]

no i just hack into all of your comps and type in add_money ai 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

[ElSypatiko]

no i just hack into all of your comps and type in add_money ai 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

allready did this on my game .
Realy nice to see every faction with 900000 start + 5000 kings purse
big units 250 men
big battles

[SicilianVespers]

As my son would say...


Cheeeeeeeeeeeeter

[Obilic]

yeah, very easy way out!!!

[ElSypatiko]

is this cheat ?
Perhaps but i like it so .
I think there were factions which had money problems and others population problems.
Fighting against a ai which has great armies and lots of money doesn't make it easy.
Gtx

[ElSypatiko]

why ?
I finished the "normal campaign"
So?

[Obilic]

Well, no offense, I still think it takes the 'game experience' away...but that's just me

[ElSypatiko]

That is what makes us interresting.
We are different.

gtx

[Mattress]

He buffed the computer AI even more. I'm not sure that's really considered cheating, since that in effect makes it even more difficult in his campaign.

I play on VH/VH and seriously the campaign AI isn't to hard to wipe the floor with. Sometimes I even see the AI do nothing with their units for a turn.



Anyway, this isn't something I do, but it's not taking away from the game experience by making it HARDER for you to achieve victory. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have it super friggin hard and beat it, than on easy mode and beat it.


ok back to bong hits and run stuffing jihads.

[DaVinci]

I'm also sure the guys above have misunderstood Sypatiko.

Of course there are always a few ways of AI money bumping, one is to play camp on VH setting as base, then to create scripts of AI add-money, or scripts of subtract money from the human player, and/or create AI support codes in different files or everything odf these options ... the "command-console-cheats" during the game, even if done as benefit for the AI, would take myself out of the immersion of the game atmosphere.

So the solution is in the end always to mod the game and play, and mod again and play and so on ... until you are satisfied with the gameplay ... and this is overall even the motivation of modding the gameplay/balance, but it's a never-ending job eventually.

But console commands might be an easy help for the only-players and the most important is naturally that you've fun ... i personally don't like cheaters who are doing disadvantages to the poor (and brainless) AI, what is the same as doing extra advantages to yourself as human player.

[ElSypatiko]

I'm also sure the guys above have misunderstood Sypatiko.

Of course there are always a few ways of AI money bumping, one is to play camp on VH setting as base, then to create scripts of AI add-money, or scripts of subtract money from the human player, and/or create AI support codes in different files or everything odf these options ... the "command-console-cheats" during the game, even if done as benefit for the AI, would take myself out of the immersion of the game atmosphere.

So the solution is in the end always to mod the game and play, and mod again and play and so on ... until you are satisfied with the gameplay ... and this is overall even the motivation of modding the gameplay/balance, but it's a never-ending job eventually.

But console commands might be an easy help for the only-players and the most important is naturally that you've fun ... i personally don't like cheaters who are doing disadvantages to the poor (and brainless) AI, what is the same as doing extra advantages to yourself as human player.

Thank you for the support .
That is excatly what i do.
Start the game with a faction modded .
Play a +-100 turns (ooh yes i play a lot)
The taking note on enemy factions what the do and don't do .
Quiting and mod the enemy factions to be betten and harder.
I even changed the siege script and added some cav.
And in 2 cases the realy left the citadel and came out .
That was nice
Ths again for the support

[Grimmy]

I've always been of the opinion that it is up to the individual on such issues of console commands and whatnot. You pay for a game, you play it your way. It's not like we're competing head to head in multiplayer campagains where such a thing as cheating matters.

[Mattress]

I've always been of the opinion that it is up to the individual on such issues of console commands and whatnot. You pay for a game, you play it your way. It's not like we're competing head to head in multiplayer campagains where such a thing as cheating matters.

Man, I wish we had real multiplayer campaigns....

[ElSypatiko]

Man, I wish we had real multiplayer campaigns....

Tha would be cool.
In STW i played once against a humen opponent.
killing his entire army .
Than i was thinking did'i miss something ?
O yes his Cav ;
Where is it ?
Damned it turnud behind me in the thick of the fight and finished me.
That was a fight

[SicilianVespers]

hhhmm...I was multi tasking at work when i posted that. That was meant for JakethX's 99999999999999999999999999999999999 comment.

I was just joking...no offense intended. I sometime give money to Ai factions that are losing badly.