Car Bomb Explodes in Damascus

[Major.Stupidity]

Here's the story, this is the third time Syria's been in the news this year with political violence. Anyone have any thoughts on the subject/ speculation as to who could be behind the attack?

[Farnan]

Hezbollah perhaps?

Maybe there is a strain between the two groups due to Syria moderating its position towards Israel, and perhaps Syria was behind the assassination of the Hezbollah leader.

[Major.Stupidity]

If you read the article, the bomb exploded near a Shi'ite religious center. I doubt Hizbullah would be behind the attack. I'm thinking perhaps a Salafist group.

[Farnan]

If you read the article, the bomb exploded near a Shi'ite religious center. I doubt Hizbullah would be behind the attack. I'm thinking perhaps a Salafist group.

Good chance...

Read the article some more (I just skimmed it before and said Syrian Intelligence and softening stance towards Israel), there are Sunni militants in Northern Lebanon who seem a bit angry.

[pajomife]

Syria spread discord in their neighbourhood, it is time to prove his own poison, who gives it?
His friends from Hezbollha,the people who have this friends dont need enemies.
Israel?Probably.
Lebanon? Which was its biggest victim.Any Christian revenge?
Or the US tired of their support to the insurgents.

To many people loves those country.

[Astaroth]

Why do those Arabs keep killing each other and others? I don't get it... the Middle Ages are over, seriously...

[Каие]

Why do those Arabs keep killing each other and others? I don't get it... the Middle Ages are over, seriously...

The Arabs have never ever been able to unite throughout history...

[Major.Stupidity]

Here's a good post on the bombing by Joshua Landis, a Syrian Historian.

[Astaroth]

The Arabs have never ever been able to unite throughout history...

I beg to differ...


Oh and, what does unity have to do with it? Germany and France aren't united either, nor are say UK and Ireland at the moment. Yet the Protestants and Catholics, Germans and French, Bavarians and Swiss live in peace

[Каие]

I beg to differ...

You think they are all Arabs? There are more Turks, Persians, Berbers, Africans, Jews, Assyrians, Kurds, Andalusians and Greeks on that map.

Plus that was never the Islamic empire at one time...

[Astaroth]

What you said is:

The Arabs have never ever been able to unite throughout history...

And yes, pretty much all Arabs were united at that time (@map). All arabs were united, that has nothing to do with whether there were other guys in the "alliance" (/country) as well.

Plus that was never the Islamic empire at one time...

Yes, it (basically) was (warning, big map pic)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

different colors for different levels of conquest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate

(the french area was conquered only for a pretty short time spam but that's irrelevant to the topic at hand anyway)

[Каие]

What you said is:And yes, pretty much all Arabs were united at that time (@map). All arabs were united, that has nothing to do with whether there were other guys in the "alliance" (/country) as well.

Only time was after the prophet...as soon as he died they split, then were united for a couple of years then split again, then went like that.

different colors for different levels of conquest.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate

(the french area was conquered only for a pretty short time spam but that's irrelevant to the topic at hand anyway)

If you look at it in more detail...they were separate Kingdoms, Spin was never ruled from Arabia, it was a separate kingdom.

[Astaroth]

Only time was after the prophet...as soon as he died they split, then were united for a couple of years then split again, then went like that.

Doesn't change my point. You claimed that they were "never united" which I proved wrong.

If you look at it in more detail...they were separate Kingdoms, Spin was never ruled from Arabia, it was a separate kingdom.

Sorry but I do not wish to be harsh to you, but please read up on the subject before making such ignorant statements.
The wikipedia article I even linked you to explains what that Caliphate consisted of - exactly all of those regions shown in the map. The different colors merely indicate that the regions were conquered at different times.
Basically, mohammed conquered only arabia, his successors then kept arabia and conquered babylonia, palestine and egypt, their successors went on with modern tunisia etc etc.
So yeah, Spain was actually part of a Caliphate ranging from Gibraltar to modern day Iran, including Palestine, Arabia etc.

[Каие]

Doesn't change my point. You claimed that they were "never united" which I proved wrong.




Sorry but I do not wish to be harsh to you, but please read up on the subject before making such ignorant statements.
The wikipedia article I even linked you to explains what that Caliphate consisted of - exactly all of those regions shown in the map. The different colors merely indicate that the regions were conquered at different times.
Basically, mohammed conquered only arabia, his successors then kept arabia and conquered babylonia, palestine and egypt, their successors went on with modern tunisia etc etc.
So yeah, Spain was actually part of a Caliphate ranging from Gibraltar to modern day Iran, including Palestine, Arabia etc.

You know this is off topic, but all I ask you to do is read the whole of your wiki article, then after establish the difference between Muslim and Arab.

[Astaroth]

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Seriously... the ruling dynasty during the early Caliphates were Arabs and even if they weren't it would be totally irrelevant because I still proved basically all of your statements wrong.

Here you go again.. just showing it to you:

The Arabs have never ever been able to unite throughout history...

False. All Arabs were united under the first Caliphs and under Mohammed.

Plus that was never the Islamic empire at one time...

False. It was. Read the articles, watch the maps.

If you look at it in more detail...they were separate Kingdoms, Spin was never ruled from Arabia, it was a separate kingdom.

False. It was part of the Umayyad Caliphate for quite some time, thus part of the Islamic/Arab Empire (it was both).

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You know this is off topic, but all I ask you to do is read the whole of your wiki article, then after establish the difference between Muslim and Arab.

...
YOU were the one who claimed this just two posts above:

that was never the Islamic empire at one time...

I proved you wrong. What else do you want?

[Каие]

Discuss via PM if ya want. I must say you've misunderstood what I was addressing with my last comment.