Design, Creation and so on

[DekuTrash]

Ok so we all know about the two arguements and their constant clashing in forums all around the net, but why hasn't anyone proposed the fact that god might have made us originally in that primordal (did i spell that right) goo and intended us to develop into what we are?

That's what i believe, but im not about to blast anyone because of their beliefs

Source!
My brother has an intro to religion class at Regis Univerity and there gonna discuss the topic
yay!

[Dayman]

Well, because your opinion on the matter isn't science either.

But how you believe it is probably the most common one amongst Christians.

[ThiudareiksGunthigg]

Ok so we all know about the two arguements and their constant clashing in forums all around the net, but why hasn't anyone proposed the fact that god might have made us originally in that primordal (did i spell that right) goo and intended us to develop into what we are?

Yes. That's what the majority of Christians and other theists believe. The fundamenatlists who believe in Creationism etc are a tiny minority. But they are larger in the US than other parts of the world and they are noisy and politically active, which is why you hear more about their weird ideas. Most Christians reject their simple-minded literalism, reconcile the fact of evolution with their faith and get on with their lives.

[DekuTrash]

indeed those are the only types I hear in the media, damn the media!

[MaximiIian]

Most religious people are of that type. Theistic evolution is a rough term for it, if there has to be one.

I, personally, think that the gods themselves played little part in creating the universe and even less in spawning life on this planet. The most I think they did was to grant blessings, but that has little to nothing to do with the origin and perpetuation of life on earth. In my view, the gods simply came in after the events and watched the universe like boy watching TV; observing and changing the channel occsionally, but not controlling the programming directly.

[Kiljaden]

I, personally, think that the gods themselves played little part in creating the universe and even less in spawning life on this planet. The most I think they did was to grant blessings, but that has little to nothing to do with the origin and perpetuation of life on earth. In my view, the gods simply came in after the events and watched the universe like boy watching TV; observing and changing the channel occsionally, but not controlling the programming directly.

Well that's an awfully useless idea of what gods are. What are the reasons for your belief? Obviously you aren't Christian so I can't pull a 1 Peter 3:15 on you, but if you would entertain the idea I would appreciate it.

[MaximiIian]

Well, I don't see any reason to believe that the gods are directly involved in the shaping of the universe; we know much of the scientific reasons for it.

I do believe that they, or rather the chiefmost among them, are the prime movers that started it all via the Big Bang event, and I think they take action and influence us through the natural world. And that, intangibly, they may have guided humanity's civil and social development (i.e, Muses, etc.). I don't think they're totally useless or lack action, as you seem to think I am saying. I just think that they are less interventionist and direct than certain other deities are portrayed as being.

[Kiljaden]

Well, I don't see any reason to believe that the gods are directly involved in the shaping of the universe; we know much of the scientific reasons for it.

I do believe that they, or rather the chiefmost among them, are the prime movers that started it all via the Big Bang event

Forgiving the contradiction, I'll as you what makes you think that gods must be the prime movers to generate the conditions that resulted in the big bang.

I think they take action and influence us through the natural world. And that, intangibly, they may have guided humanity's civil and social development (i.e, Muses, etc.). I don't think they're totally useless or lack action, as you seem to think I am saying. I just think that they are less interventionist and direct than certain other deities are portrayed as being.

An interesting idea, to be sure. Forgive me, but exactly what makes you think this? Positting the existence of these beings seems highly unnecessary as you already accept the naturalistic verifiable explanations we have. Just what about this world needs gods? If the world doesn't need gods, then why do we need belief in gods?

[MaximiIian]

The reasons for my beliefs are very much in the category of emotional experience and unverifiable personal gnosis; some look at nature and see "just" plants and animals, whereas I, admittedly a Romantic, see it as much more. There are some things even I don't know the answer to, and I am sorry that I can't yet figure the answer to it. Figuring all this out and understanding it is a learning process; it's gradual, not a sudden revelation thing. So, maybe I will have an answer to some of your questions eventually.

I don't really mind if you believe the same as I do or not, because you're freely open to your opinion. I'm not trying to convince you that they exist, nor am I trying to prove the gods' existence through the scientific method. I'm just voicing my views in the context of discussion.

[Amorphos]

i done a similar thread 3 years ago called ‘the humanative’ ~ were evolution is the method for creating intelligent life, and that humanity [human like beings] is universal.