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    Default Extremist Jews in bomb attack against Israeli 'anti-settlement' academic

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7635386.stm

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    A well-known Israeli critic of Jewish settlement in the occupied West Bank, Zeev Sternhell, has been slightly wounded in a bomb attack.

    Police suspect ultra-nationalists Israelis were behind the attack.
    Professor Sternhall has also strongly opposed the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip, describing it as immoral and ineffective.
    Earlier this year, Professor Sternhall was awarded the prestigious Israel Prize for political science.
    Mr Sternhell suffered minor shrapnel wounds in one leg.
    Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said several assailants were waiting for Mr Sternhell shortly after midnight on Wednesday outside his home in Jerusalem.
    They escaped after throwing a small pipe bomb.
    Mr Rosenfeld said police "believe the background [to the attack] is ideological".
    Reports say police investigators found posters in Mr Sternhell's neighbourhood offering a reward of $320,000 to anyone who kills a member of Peace Now, an Israeli group that campaigns against settlement building to which the academic belongs.
    Mr Sternhell, a Holocaust survivor, is best known for his work on the history of fascism.


    Interesting...to those who are content with Islam being the only religion or ideology which attacks people in terrorist fashion...It's a small event with only a pipe bomb but if we add that to this and this.

    They are slowly changing and adopting new strategies...could this mean the small humble beginnings of a new front in Israel's war on terror? Palestinian extremists in one corner, Jews in the other, with the small secular republic in the middle?

    By the way this proves my earlier points, the Israeli people are decent and good, but it's small extremists like this, and the extremist parties which are in the coalition governments which are the cause of their problems.

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    First off your source is the BBC, while reliable is known for their anti Israeli Stance, so it would be all to convieniant for them to say OH ITS THE JEWS FIGHITNG JEWS, similar to Fox's "fair and balanced" news approach. There is no evidence insofar that this attack was carried out by jews. Until we have evidence of that Im not gunna throw in my two cents yet...

    However I dont deny the existence of extremists on both sides, Im not going to take that next step up and say that the ratio of extremists is anywhere close to equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Industries View Post
    First off your source is the BBC, while reliable is known for their anti Israeli Stance, so it would be all to convieniant for them to say OH ITS THE JEWS FIGHITNG JEWS, similar to Fox's "fair and balanced" news approach. There is no evidence insofar that this attack was carried out by jews. Until we have evidence of that Im not gunna throw in my two cents yet...

    However I dont deny the existence of extremists on both sides, Im not going to take that next step up and say that the ratio of extremists is anywhere close to equal.
    I'm sorry did you just.. compare Fox.. to the BBC... are you serious?

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    ^What he said. By the way, Shas isn't even close to agree with the type of religious Jews in the settlements, it's a completely different category.
    Sigh...

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    The BBC!?

    "Anti-Israeli Stance!?"



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    What about Haaretz? Suprisingly sounding Jewish name for an Arabic website.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindicare View Post
    The BBC!?

    "Anti-Israeli Stance!?"



    LOL!
    Hey Laugh all you want but From what I've read/heard/watched of the bbc they're not exactly "fans" of Israel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Industries View Post
    Hey Laugh all you want but From what I've read/heard/watched of the bbc they're not exactly "fans" of Israel
    Then who would you like us to trust Ryan? Who are fans of Israel?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Industries View Post
    Hey Laugh all you want but From what I've read/heard/watched of the bbc they're not exactly "fans" of Israel
    Maybe because they realize what Israel really does over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Industries View Post
    Hey Laugh all you want but From what I've read/heard/watched of the bbc they're not exactly "fans" of Israel
    What is there to be a fan about? They are a criminal regime..

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    its ethan btw, had a Bioshock Inspired moment

    Assosiated Press Is known to be pretty neutral, News stations arent my specialty but being in chatrooms with brits/aussies/new zealand-ees I tend to read alot of BBC related stuff

    Hum... Daily show and Colbert Report is what I can really recomend lol...

    edit: Oh here we go again... can we stop going off topic to flame israel and instead talk about what the thread itself is about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Industries View Post
    its ethan btw, had a Bioshock Inspired moment

    Assosiated Press Is known to be pretty neutral, News stations arent my specialty but being in chatrooms with brits/aussies/new zealand-ees I tend to read alot of BBC related stuff

    Hum... Daily show and Colbert Report is what I can really recomend lol...

    edit: Oh here we go again... can we stop going off topic to flame israel and instead talk about what the thread itself is about?
    yeah, the Colbert Show is good for real news. By yeah i of course mean no. And by good i mean not reliable and by real i mean fake.

    I dont go to chatrooms with Brits/aussies and new zealand-ees cos i hate them and i dont like the name ethan.

    BBC is the most reliable news source out there, up there with the Times and Guardian.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    yeah, the Colbert Show is good for real news. By yeah i of course mean no. And by good i mean not reliable and by real i mean fake.

    I dont go to chatrooms with Brits/aussies and New Zealand-ees cos i hate them and i dont like the name ethan.

    BBC is the most reliable news source out there, up there with the Times and Guardian.
    Capitalise please, and we prefer to be known as Kiwis (Kee-We-s) and why don't you like us, we beat you in rugby or something?

    Oops, that was off topic, but maybe the Jews are getting a teensy bit tired of being pushed around for what, like the past 2000 years (By everyone)? Not saying extremism is the answer, but I think maybe Israel should be relocated to a place not surrounded by Islam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    Oops, that was off topic, but maybe the Jews are getting a teensy bit tired of being pushed around for what, like the past 2000 years (By everyone)? Not saying extremism is the answer, but I think maybe Israel should be relocated to a place not surrounded by Islam
    this is Ahmadinejad's idea BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Fanatic :) View Post
    What is there to be a fan about? They are a criminal regime..
    So, is Russia. (You're russian right?)
    For the future if you want to make idiotic claims, try to back it up with something. Anything...
    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    The Jews are not that different to the Muslims you know, in every way.
    And muslims are not different from Christians, Buddhists, etc. We're all people.
    And I don't recall any of Israelis here claiming that we don't have extremists, religious fanatics and other scum. It's just they don't win the elections here. If you know what I mean...

    Kb, you really have nothing better to do, than searching the net for even the smallest Israeli crap.

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    ''Propaganda! There are no Jewish terrorists who are anti-Arabic!''

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kach_and_Kahane_Chai
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League
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    Right folks. From now on all topics on Israel/Palestine/Lebanon/Puppies will be sourced with embedded youtubes from the Colbert Report.

    Policy effective starting now.
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    yeah, the Colbert Show is good for real news. By yeah i of course mean no. And by good i mean not reliable and by real i mean fake.

    Right folks. From now on all topics on Israel/Palestine/Lebanon/Puppies will be sourced with embedded youtubes from the Colbert Report.

    Policy effective starting now.
    Sounds good...

    twas a joke my good friends

    I dont go to chatrooms with Brits/aussies and new zealand-ees cos i hate them and i dont like the name ethan
    Not sure how thats relevant but aight (sarcasm)

    BBC is the most reliable news source out there, up there with the Times and Guardian
    I never doubted that, however for news relating to Israel i prefer other sources.

    ''Propaganda! There are no Jewish terrorists who are anti-Arabic!''

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kach_and_Kahane_Chai
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League
    I dont believe anybody here said that
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    I personally believe Jewish terrorist groups, if Israel gives up East Jerusalem and ends settlements etc., will definitely emerge.

    The Jews are not that different to the Muslims you know, in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    I personally believe Jewish terrorist groups, if Israel gives up East Jerusalem and ends settlements etc., will definitely emerge.

    The Jews are not that different to the Muslims you know, in every way.
    Nope, When push comes to shove both will still stopp to lows that they wouldnt reach if it wasnt for religion.

    However the 'old testament' Doesnt exactly preach alot of the same hate that parts of the koran teachesNow whether or not idiots still take it as saying we must kill the muslims...well theres religion for you...

    In World War Z Max Brooks touched upon that briefly a jewish Civil War after the pullback from Jerusalem.
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