The other thread kind of fell by the way side, and beyond that, there was no poll to get an actual feel of who TWC Canadians support. Please, do NOT vote on the poll if you are not a Canadian.
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Canadian Election 2008--Poll
The other thread kind of fell by the way side, and beyond that, there was no poll to get an actual feel of who TWC Canadians support. Please, do NOT vote on the poll if you are not a Canadian.
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Re: Canadian Election 2008--Poll
So after you and the rest of the forum trashed our British polls time and time again, you're asking us not toOriginally Posted by Scar Face
this one up?
I will comply as, we British have honour!
Did you know Scarface, if you came to Britain and lived here, without getting citizenship, you can vote in our elections? So If a similar arrangement worked within the commonwealth, and not just in Britain, I would vote SDP or Green.
You're conservatives and Liberals are weak, I'm afraid. Liberals are weak everywhere to be honest, "their feet are firmly placed in the air", while your Tories have clearly made a hash of the last couple of years...I like the SDP leader, but not so much socialists, and I hate nationalists, so the Quebecois are out. In a nation such as Canada, which relies upon the global warming climate, the Greens are (if they reform themselves slightly) a harmless choice (unless they go eco-terrorist/extremist on you).
Just my two cents, although If i lived there I would probably vote for an Independant who agreed with me...
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The Greens are far from harmless. Their platform is an orgy of
enviro-fantasies and economic nightmares that frighten me more than being forced to interpret what Stephane Dion is saying.
The only reason they can propose some of their craziness-as-politics is due to the fact that will have a nearly impossible time getting into an "elected" seat. They can promise teh world and it won't matter because they won't ever win.
Read their platform to see what I mean. It is insane. They have a considerable gap in their understanding of how the Canadian economy works, and how it fits in with the rest of the world.
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From what I can tell, the SDP eventually progressed into its modern incartation of the NDP today. Could be wrong though- socialists don't interest me, so I pay little attention.
It's ridiculous that I would be able to vote in British elections without Citizenship, that should be reformed, fast. I agree with you that the Liberals are weak, at the moment, their policies are ridiculous, the party is [and has always been] corrupt. It also really has no firm area of support. I mean, it use to rely on a great deal of votes in Ontario- you got basically 1/3 of Canada right there- but not anymore. Anyways, what do you mean "made a hash" of the last couple of years? I presume you mean screwed up? In what way?
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Considering we have a snap election something has gone wrong..but regarding corruption, I wouldn't paint the Tories as innocent, what is this about them bribing an Indie MP? Their actions have been far more questionable...I presume you mean screwed up? In what way?
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Snap elections in minority Governments are very common in Canada. In fact, Stephen Harper has kept his minority Government alive longer than any other minority Government in history. Not sure how Britain works, but in Canada, if the Government proposes a bill, and it fails, you have to call an election. This isn't what happened at this time, its just an example of why minority Governments are so damn unstable. At that, Stephen Harper has managed to past various reforms that all the other parties opposed, simply due to strong tactics.
Anyways, I haven't heard of them bribing an Indie MP, but by no means are the tories a virginal party. But, traditionally, if you elect a Liberal Government, a year or so later you find out they had been stealing hundreds of thousands from you, blind. They're pretty damn consistent in their greed.
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We don't have minority governments really, last one was in 79' and the opposition gave a vote of no confidence forcing an election. So I wouldn't know.
Off wiki...Anyways, I haven't heard of them bribing an Indie MP, but by no means are the tories a virginal party. But, traditionally, if you elect a Liberal Government, a year or so later you find out they had been stealing hundreds of thousands from you, blind. They're pretty damn consistent in their greed.
On February 27, 2008 allegations surfaced that two Conservative Party officials offered Independent MP Chuck Cadman a million-dollar life insurance policy in exchange for his vote to bring down the Liberal government in a May 2005 budget vote. [4] If the elements of the story are true, the Conservatives' actions may amount to a criminal offence. Under the Criminal Code of Canada, it is illegal to bribe an MP. [5] An audio tape suggests then-opposition leader Stephen Harper was not only aware of a financial offer to Chuck Cadman but gave it his personal approval.[6]
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) has been asked to investigate, and confirmed late February 28, 2008 that it is examining a claim from the Liberal Party that the incident violates the Criminal Code's Section 119 provisions on bribery and corruption.[7][8]
The RCMP searched Conservative party headquarters in Ottawa on April 15, 2008 at the request of Elections Canada. Elections commissioner William Corbett requested the assistance of the Mounties. Elections Canada is probing Conservative party spending for advertisements during the 2006 parliamentary election campaign.[9]
Ecce Homo
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What a load of crap. One blown out of proportion scandal that didn't even put the money into the pockets of the politicians and now we have liberal governments that line their pockets every year they are in power. Please.
Harper is the worst thing for this country should he get a majority. Our health care system will be in jeopardy and vast amounts of money will be spent on meaningless military equipment (proposed aircraft carrier from a few years ago?). While GOOD social programs are cut and the taxes of larger corporations are cut even more. All the regular canadians get is a token GST break which hasn't even been meaningful. If we could really lower taxes how bout income taxes?!?
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What the hell are you talking about? When have the Conservatives attacked our Public health care system? I know they have murmured ideas of a hybrid system, which is entirely acceptable- considering our health care system is in complete anarchy.
http://www.conservative.ca/EN/4739/78188
Notice how their policies are not about dismantling it? Notice how its about increased funding? Notice how your pulling things out of your own ass?
Primicerius
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I voted the Christian Heritage Party just for the hell of it
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I see some foolish foreigners, once again...ruined the poll.
Tiro
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Conservative - only because of the military funding.
Dux Limitis
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i went LMAO...seeing JP voted Christian heritage lol.....
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That's why I said, if they reformed themselves into more of a party then pressure group.
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Yes. As far as Federal Politics goes, they're as useless as titsonabull.
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Liberals. Normally I would go Marijuana Party or Libertarian, but I really want the Liberals to beat the Conservatives.
The Greens don't understand economics in the slightest. If they (somehow) won the elections we would either (A) Fall apart from our economy skydiving and exploding or (B) Once the oil in Alberta stopped flowing, we would become the 51st-63rd state of America. I don't even see WHY we have a Green party, since logically the only way our country is going to improve considerably is via Global Warming, which will only cost us a couple insignificant and uninhabited islands up north.
The Conservatives are right on a couple things, but they are so utterly wrong on most others that they should NOT come back for another term to screw up. I don't care how many flags they stick on the North pole, or how much they annoy Russia, they don't belong in office.
The NDP is bad. If you saw what they did to BC while in office, then you would catch on. They may as well be renamed "The Socialist Party of Canada".
The Liberals are wishy-washy-politcal-correctness party. If 70% of Canada's population joined the KKK, the Liberals would likely be on their side. But on the other hand, they aren't really radically wrong on anything at the moment, and thus really are the best hope for Canada.
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One of the many important issues I agree with the conservatives on is increased Military funding. That is an absolute must. We need to maintain our rich land with a stronger military force.
As St. Michael cast Satan out of Paradise, we must do the same!
(St. Michael = Conservatives), (Satan= Russia), (Paradise = Canada)
Last edited by Dance the older; September 26, 2008 at 09:08 PM.
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A "hybrid" system is definitely not in the best interests of Canadians. You know what is down the two-tier road: as usual, the poor will suffer from a doctor brain-drain to the private sector and only the well-off will be able to get the medical care they need.Ok, first off, our National healthcare is broken. What is it now, 1 doctor for every 1000 Canadians? Find the statistic yourself, because the exact degree in which people are not receiving medical care is semantical, because the point is, they are not receiving medical care. A hybrid system gives people the choice. If Privatized health care ends up being the better system, then we will probably see a shift. If its not, then we wont. What are you so afraid of?
In modern society, personal wealth should not dictate whether you receive medical attention, promptly, or not.
I reject the idea that Canada should pour more money into the military just for the sake of your sentimental "long and proud history of War".
What happened to our long and proud history of peacekeeping, anyway?
We do not need an even bigger military. Canada doesn't need the ability to project power overseas like the States; it should focus instead on arctic sovereignty and anti-terrorism operations.
Besides, decent military hardware is hugely expensive - taxpayer money that cannot, subsequently, be used to improve the health care system or lower taxes.
Provided we can protect our own borders and our own people, a "stronger" military is a pointless waste of valuable funds.
Last edited by Admiral Nelson; September 27, 2008 at 12:24 AM.
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Uh...the brain drain is already happening[to America...], the poor are already suffering- which is why there's one doctor for every 1000 Canadians.
Were a rich and industrial nation, who has foreign policy interests and global obligations that, more often that not, require military force to go through with. Does that suffice?
Sorry, wearing blue helmets and being disbarred from actually returning fire while your being shot at is not exactly my image of a proud, independent Canada. And it has not been that long.
We require a military to do precisely that, we lack the numbers and the equipment to effectively engage the Taliban in Afghanistan.
That is not, or should not be, the only concern of Canadians.
Sorry, but Canada has a part to play in the war against Terrorism, we have an obligation to the West, to our allies, and more importantly to ourselves, to seek out and destroy those who would do the same to us.
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