"e_select_character" problems

[alhoon]

Well, it doesn't work for me.

According to the UDocudemons 4.0 a script like:

"monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd FactionIsLocal
e_select_character
console_command give_trait this Drink
end monitor"

should work. Well, it doesn't.

The only way to make it work is to select the character by hand before hitting end turn. Then the script works for this character.

What I do wrong?

[GrnEyedDvl]

Its broken.

The only way is to force the player to physically select the character.

[alhoon]

oh, crap... Thanks. At least I won't waste any more hours.

[GrnEyedDvl]

I have tried everything conceivable to get it to work, and so has alpaca. Its one of the things that pisses me off the most about the CA scripting language. Life would be soooo much simpler.

I have figured out a way to work around some issues, but there is no magic bullet to fix all of them. If you give me an idea what you are trying to do I might have already figured something out for it.

[SigniferOne]

Alhoon, try this, it really should work:

monitor_event CharacterTurnStart
e_select_character
console_command give_trait this Drink
end monitor

I'm almost 100% certain that e_select works with CharacterTurnStart. It's buggy and doesn't work with all commands, but it does work with specific ones.

[BozosLiveHere]

It won't work right. For once, you can't have anything selected when you press end turn. Secondly, it won't work for more than one monitor at once - i.e., if you have two or more such monitors firing at the same turn, the guy that fired the first one will get all the traits, even if he isn't eligible to fire the others.

[SigniferOne]

Well that still gives it room to perform under some conditions.

[alhoon]

Thankfully, I found a way around this mess.

I was trying the following more or less:
- Event X fires and gives the accept/decline for the player. Example: A faction demands money or they start propaganda against the FLeader.
- If player accepts/declines there's a random chance for the FL to aquire the trait. Example: If the player declines there's a 5% - 15% chance for the FLeader to get a -2 to authority etc for 15 turns.

The good thing is that for FLeader and FHeir I managed to do this with event counters in the traits.

Solution I ended up with:
If the player declines, Event counter X1 becomes 1. As long as X1 =1, there's a chance that the event counter X2 becomes 1.

Export_char_traits:

Trigger smear_england_FL1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition FactionType england
and IsFactionLeader
and I_EventCounter propaganda_england = 1
and not I_EventCounter authorleader >= 2
Affects propaganda 1 Chance 4

Problem solved.

As a note, Authorleader is a counter that becomes 2 if the FLeader has authority 6 or more and propaganda is the trait that gives pens to authority and local popularity.

GrnEyeDvl can you please put a note on the Docudemons that the e_select_character is buggy? So that people know and don't lose hours upon hours to see what's wrong?
Also may I ask which other commands are bugged?

[GrnEyedDvl]

I have already done that I just havent uploaded version 5.0 yet. There are still a few more things I want to add.

Other stuff that I know of off the top of my head that are jacked up:
provoke_rebellion - does not seem to work at all
FatherTrait condition - Only works when used with the FatherDiesNatural event, all others cause a CTD


Probably a few others.

[alpaca]

FatherTrait works when you use it with CharacterComesOfAge which is the primary intention.

Anyways, the e_select_character does work with some specific stuff I believe, for example with the events that trigger on a spy mission, etc. In that case, however, it will select the faction leader. I also think it's best to simply not use it.

[SigniferOne]

FatherTrait works when you use it with CharacterComesOfAge which is the primary intention.

Anyways, the e_select_character does work with some specific stuff I believe, for example with the events that trigger on a spy mission, etc. In that case, however, it will select the faction leader. I also think it's best to simply not use it.

I think that rather than working randomly, it's been coded merely to work with specific events. It is an extraordinarily useful command and so I think it would be really useful if we could collate all of the events under which it works correctly.

[GrnEyedDvl]

FatherTrait works when you use it with CharacterComesOfAge which is the primary intention.

Anyways, the e_select_character does work with some specific stuff I believe, for example with the events that trigger on a spy mission, etc. In that case, however, it will select the faction leader. I also think it's best to simply not use it.

I meant FatherAnc there, sorry.

[alhoon]

I meant FatherAnc there, sorry.

OK... You just saved me from a couple of hours.
Any other way to implement FatherAnc?

Oh, this is infuriating. You know all these ancillaries "Prince of XXXX", "Emperor of XXXX" etc.
So, we can't give the son of these guys traits and ancillaries except if they are faction heirs?

I have turned some titles to transferable ancillaries.

[Azim]

What about e_select_settlement? Does that work?

[GrnEyedDvl]

It seems to have the same issues.

[GrnEyedDvl]

The only way I have been able to use the condition is with FatherDiesNatural, but I havent tested every single event with it. The ones I have tested resulted in CTD.