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    Default Georgia shot down Russian drone.

    Deja Vu anyone?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?section=world

    Russia drone shot down, Georgia says
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    Georgia says it has shot down a Russian reconnaissance drone over Georgian territory, just south of the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

    The drone was brought down on Monday morning (local time) near the town of Gori, some 30km from the de facto border with South Ossetia, Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said.

    "It was flying over the territory between the villages of Khurvaleti and Tsitelutani," he said.

    "We believe it was patrolling the territory where the Baku-Supsa [oil] pipeline runs."

    Mr Utiashvili said it was a short-range drone, and suggested it had been launched from Russian positions holding a "security zone" just a few kilometres north of Gori.

    In Moscow, Russian army spokesman Vitaly Manushko denied that any such incident had occurred.

    "There has been no crash or downing of any flying apparatus in the security zone," Manushko was quoted by RIA Novosti news agency as saying.

    Defence ministry spokesman Alexander Drobyshevsky was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying: "This is the latest informational provocation from the Georgian side with the aim of destabilising the situation in the region."

    The incident came as Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili was due on Tuesday to appeal for international support in his country's conflict with Russia at the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

    Georgian separatists have frequently claimed to have shot down Georgian reconnaissance drones, but claims by Georgia to have shot down Russian drones have been rare.

    Russian forces continue to hold positions inside undisputed Georgian territory after they repelled a Georgian assault in early August to retake South Ossetia from pro-Moscow separatists.

    Under the terms of a French-brokered pullback deal, Russian forces are due to withdraw from the 'security zones' adjacent to South Ossetia and another breakaway region, Abkhazia, by October 10.
    It wouldn't have been headline news some two months ago, but today, after the recent conflict, it is.

    After those two regions became de facto independent Russia, at the request of S. Ossetia of course, will place military bases there.

    I think "incidents" like this will be more common in the near future.
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    Oh christ here we go again
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    Default Re: Georgia shot down Russian drone.

    OK -- the Georgians scored a victory shot. Let's call it a win for today. Does anybody really think this is even news? The Russians want to know what is going on. They send drones over to take a look. Lost one. No pilot, only a drone -- no crisis for either side.

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    I guess they didn't learn their lesson yet, even if shooting it down was technically justified, it wasn't smart.
    Sigh...

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    I think "incidents" like this will be more common in the near future
    I totally agree with what you said there. This seems like Rusia is trying to provoke Georgia to attack one of their military units, in turn causing a new war. And this new war would make Russia feel justified into occupying Georgia in full.

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    i want pictures of the wreckage/debris.:hmmm:
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    Russia is going to you people up when it finds out. Russia is going to end you.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxchamp View Post
    i want pictures of the wreckage/debris.:hmmm:
    None so far. Russia denies the incident.

    But even if they provide evidence, Russia will claim it was an "aditional security measure" acording to the very unclear art. 5 of the ceasefire.

    http://www.euractiv.com/29/images/cf...m29-174978.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew87 View Post
    None so far. Russia denies the incident.

    But even if they provide evidence, Russia will claim it was an "aditional security measure" acording to the very unclear art. 5 of the ceasefire.

    http://www.euractiv.com/29/images/cf...m29-174978.pdf
    be careful about the nature of the evidence. they're very well capable of trashing an old Simca and pretend it's the remains of a drone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxchamp View Post
    i want pictures of the wreckage/debris.:hmmm:
    Like you could tell one totalled drone wreckage from another... seriously dude


    Quote Originally Posted by Grof View Post
    I doubt that Russia sent a drone to look over Georgia. Most of its reconnaissance is done by MiG 31 or TU 95 airplanes.
    Another 'proof' of how sophisticated the Russian military is... NATO is clearly inferior here... clearly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Like you could tell one totalled drone wreckage from another... seriously dude




    Another 'proof' of how sophisticated the Russian military is... NATO is clearly inferior here... clearly!
    Yeah, why send a cold and heartless drone when you can send a whole bomber crew of hot blooded real men and get them shot down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Another 'proof' of how sophisticated the Russian military is... NATO is clearly inferior here... clearly!
    I was only saying what they use the most when it comes to surveillance. And there is no way that Georgia can shoot down a MiG 31, it flies to high and too fast. If they can shoot down MiG 31 than they shouldn't have lost the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grof View Post
    I was only saying what they use the most when it comes to surveillance. And there is no way that Georgia can shoot down a MiG 31, it flies to high and too fast. If they can shoot down MiG 31 than they shouldn't have lost the war.
    And there is no way a MiG 31 can get any useful intelligence when compared to modern UAVs... Or even better... Satellites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    Either Georgia used a tractor beam to pull that thing out of the air, or it fell down on its own after its wing snapped. Or maybe the Russians forgot to charge the battery.
    Or maybe the Russian controlling it (if that is so) was just plain drunk? I mean we have established the fact that drunk driving tanks in Russia isn't an implausible thing. Perhaps that's just another super advance course in Armoured Warfare...
    Last edited by Holger Danske; September 24, 2008 at 12:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attilavolciak07 View Post
    I totally agree with what you said there. This seems like Rusia is trying to provoke Georgia to attack one of their military units, in turn causing a new war. And this new war would make Russia feel justified into occupying Georgia in full.
    brilliant theory .

    so where are those 20 bombers heading to Tbilisi, attila, still flying ? remember our little gamble on Georgia's ministry of truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    brilliant theory .

    so where are those 20 bombers heading to Tbilisi, attila, still flying ? remember our little gamble on Georgia's ministry of truth?
    Hehe, the gamble? You'll have to read the context again, I actually swtiched a word around that would make you say that bombers would head there, and you accepted it.

    Then why do you suppose, .Czar, Russia had a spy plane over Georgia? Peacekeeping by watching genocidal Georgians.

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    And i thought Georgia have learned there lesson...

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    Proof - pics of drone, and proof that it was Russian.
    So far, to me its just another scam attempt by Saakashvili's regime.

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    Default Re: Georgia shot down Russian drone.

    Ok, so the georgians claim that they shot a georgian drone down, but the russians say they don't miss a drone.
    Perhaps the georgians shot one of their own drones down by mistake?

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    1. I doubt there was a Russian UAV in the region in the first place. pics or it didnt happen.
    2. Who cares? the glorious Georgian freedom fighters shot down the bloodthirsty imperialist commie drone ? yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    1. I doubt there was a Russian UAV in the region in the first place. pics or it didnt happen.
    Enlighten me in how you know what military units Russia stores in the area.

    the glorious Georgian freedom fighters shot down the bloodthirsty imperialist commie drone
    Glad you understand.
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