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    Though I find the American Election a little more exciting than the Canadian Election, I would like too know who you support as leader of Canada.

    http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/

    I will be voting for Conservative Leader Stephen Harper.

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...l-results.html

    I don't think Stephane Dion knows what he's doing, and I am still bitter over the Sponsorship Scandal during Jean Crétien's term. I will never trust Liberals again.

    As for Bloc Quebecois, it's self-explanatory, I will never side with separatist political parties.

    NDP, I support many ideals of the NDP, however, without being able to acquire sufficient voters to make a difference, I must go with the Conservative Party.

    Green Party, I'm for Marijuana Legalization as it will bring an estimated $1 billion back in to the federal government, however, I do not believe an American should ever run the Canadian gov't, as they will never allow a foreignborn citizen to run their's. Sorry Mrs. May.

    Conservatives - Stephen Harper
    Liberals - Stéphane Dion
    NDP - Jack Layton
    Bloc Québécois - Gilles Duceppe
    Green Party - Elizabeth May
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    Either NDP or Green Party... Didn't decide yet.

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    NDP or Conservative. Most likely Conservatives. Although I'm usually more of a Liberal, but Dion is an absolute dumbass who is going to destroy Canada's economy just as much as Bush destroyed America's.

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    I never understood why the Liberals chose Stephane Dion. The man is barely knowned in the western part of the country, he is quite hated in his home province and has the charisma of a gold fish. Im either gonna vote NPD, Green or BLOC, though Ill wait and see what they all have to say before I commit to a descision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davout View Post
    I never understood why the Liberals chose Stephane Dion. The man is barely knowned in the western part of the country, he is quite hated in his home province and has the charisma of a gold fish. Im either gonna vote NPD, Green or BLOC, though Ill wait and see what they all have to say before I commit to a descision.
    The worst thing you could do is vote Bloc. I don't know why Quebecers do, its tantamount to throwing your vote away in my opinion. With the status of the NDP as it is the Bloc have last nearly all their influence in the house. So with that gone and the impossibility of being a ruling party its almost the equivalent of voting independent for the US presidential election.

    NDP or Conservative. Most likely Conservatives. Although I'm usually more of a Liberal, but Dion is an absolute dumbass who is going to destroy Canada's economy just as much as Bush destroyed America's.
    How can you be split between the NDP and the conservatives? They are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum on EVERY issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    The worst thing you could do is vote Bloc. I don't know why Quebecers do, its tantamount to throwing your vote away in my opinion. With the status of the NDP as it is the Bloc have last nearly all their influence in the house. So with that gone and the impossibility of being a ruling party its almost the equivalent of voting independent for the US presidential election.
    Well, the Bloc is mostly the party we vote for when we are angry at the federal level and dont like the alternative, like this case. Stephane Dion is one of the most hated figure of the Liberal party in the province and Stephen Harper is too far on the right to ever have my vote. Since the NPD is inherently weak in my city, I would have to vote Bloc if I wanted to beat out the conservative. But frankly, I think Im gonna vote NPD.

    As for the justification for someone voting Bloc, I think there is still one for many people, but not me. Its mostly a sign for the federal government more than anything else. I would just rather vote Bloc than Dion or Harper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davout View Post
    I never understood why the Liberals chose Stephane Dion. The man is barely knowned in the western part of the country, he is quite hated in his home province and has the charisma of a gold fish. Im either gonna vote NPD, Green or BLOC, though Ill wait and see what they all have to say before I commit to a descision.
    On the contrary, I am for Stephane Dion and the Liberals. His ideas may be controversial, but in my mind, they are actually quite brilliant. The problem with politics in Canada is that no one bothers reading about the issues or trying to understand Dion's Green Shift plan. He is portrayed as a wishy washy kind of guy, but this is certainly not the case. He has stuck with his ideas and policies despite being under intense criticism. I care more about ideas rather than empty "charisma."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipp View Post
    On the contrary, I am for Stephane Dion and the Liberals. His ideas may be controversial, but in my mind, they are actually quite brilliant. The problem with politics in Canada is that no one bothers reading about the issues or trying to understand Dion's Green Shift plan. He is portrayed as a wishy washy kind of guy, but this is certainly not the case. He has stuck with his ideas and policies despite being under intense criticism. I care more about ideas rather than empty "charisma."
    "Green Shift" is crap. He has already proposed ideas to dish out over $4 billion for his "Green Shift" idea.. He doesn't realize that with the US's failing economy, that Canada is also taking numerous economic hits and it is foreseen only too get worse. He needs to change his ideals. That is why he has so many enemies, he IS NOT listening to his OWN political advisers in the party, he continues to tread water with his Green Shift plan which has already proven to be an extremely foolish plan. He can't keep promising money that, in the end, he will not be able to come through on. I assure you of it.

    BTW, it's already being projected that Stephen Harper has pretty much won the election, regardless of a majority, they are expected too be stronger than in his previous(current) term. Political analysts have confirmed his support has only grown since last. Blame Dion, truly... Many Liberals are abandoning him, as well as abandoning the Bloc.
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    I prefer the Conservative party, but I agree with most Canadians when they say Stephen Harper doesn't look trust worthy- I don't know why, its just something about him. I also don't really trust him on policy issues considering he switches according to the political whims of the time [immigration is a great example]. I can't really trust that hes a 'Conservative' if he just follows popular opinion. But, he beats the hell out of the Socialist NDP and the Liberals, lead by that buffoon Dion.

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    I hear ya about Harper and Dion. Personally I don't like Layton either. All the leaders SUCK. I can't trust Harper, even his smile just rubs me the wrong way. But Dion and Layton are TERRIBLE alternatives. Its just a really crappy election. I'd much rather keep things going as they are. They seem to be working fine (despite what the party leaders say).

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    I dont know too much about the elections, but if i could vote i would probably go with stephen harper.
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    Why do French Nationalists even support the Bloc? The Bloc are not even Nationalists, they have ripped apart earlier policies of protecting Quebecois identity, Culture, language, religion- their way of life, to simply be the protection of the French language. They practically define the Quebecois state on what language they speak, its ridiculous.

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    Im not sure about the 5% thing about the bloc (last time I checked, they were still ahead of the Conservatives), as for the rest, I chose to stay away from the conflict within the separatist movement because like many younger Quebecers, I feel like the movement failed at staying in touch with the times and I want the baby boomers to either open the door for a little change or leave the scene.

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    Vote Rhino!
    http://rhinoparty.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada

    But seriously, I'm considering voting Green, or maybe NDP. My current riding is solid Lib anyway, and like many others, I don't trust Harper. Dion seems like a baby hamster, the Libs should've chosen Ignatieff.

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    probably end up another minority....Harper doesn't seem to have what it takes to get both Quebec and Ontario to form a majority.
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    I cannot pretend to talk for Canadians domestic Policy...I am simply not qualified, or justified but something I always wondered shouldn't Canada be a very 'Green' country due to the fact Global Warming will affect you worst? I mean are all the main parties Global warming/Climate change measure advocates?

    As for the Election itself..according to polls;
    http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/polls.html

    CON 38%
    LIB 23%
    NDP 17%
    GRN 12%
    BQ 8%
    OTH 2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    I cannot pretend to talk for Canadians domestic Policy...I am simply not qualified, or justified but something I always wondered shouldn't Canada be a very 'Green' country due to the fact Global Warming will affect you worst? I mean are all the main parties Global warming/Climate change measure advocates?

    As for the Election itself..according to polls;
    http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/polls.html

    CON 38%
    LIB 23%
    NDP 17%
    GRN 12%
    BQ 8%
    OTH 2%
    Well, Canada is very conscious of our environment, and the amount of pollution we expel- unfortunately, Canada has a long way to go towards acceptable standards, Canadians on average, are almost as bad as Americans in terms of wasted energy, etc. Likewise, as you can see, the Green party is gaining a huge momentum- in the last election they took only about 5% of the vote, and before that 2%. Its actually quite surprising how fast they grew. Nonetheless, Dions Carbon tax is just idiotic.

    Edit: It's also interesting that ten years ago, the right was fractured, so no one party was able to truly resist the Liberal Government. Now a days, the left is fractured, and no one party will truly be able to resist the Conservatives. The Liberals and NDP have lost a lot of votes to the Green party, and I'm sure, to an extent, even the Conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Well, Canada is very conscious of our environment, and the amount of pollution we expel- unfortunately, Canada has a long way to go towards acceptable standards, Canadians on average, are almost as bad as Americans in terms of wasted energy, etc. Likewise, as you can see, the Green party is gaining a huge momentum- in the last election they took only about 5% of the vote, and before that 2%. Its actually quite surprising how fast they grew. Nonetheless, Dions Carbon tax is just idiotic.

    Edit: It's also interesting that ten years ago, the right was fractured, so no one party was able to truly resist the Liberal Government. Now a days, the left is fractured, and no one party will truly be able to resist the Conservatives. The Liberals and NDP have lost a lot of votes to the Green party, and I'm sure, to an extent, even the Conservatives.
    Good to hear your Greens are rising up and powerful, you should be an example to all of us to show we can advance and can be green. If only they weren't so left...

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    The Green Party will always remain in the Bloc's shadow, but 2-3% LoL. And ofcourse is Pluto compared to Stephen Harper's Jupiter.
    BTW, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want an American to lead Canada anyways. Not that the Green Party shall ever ascend to it. I would rather see another Liberal moron than an American candidate.
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    The Green Party is at 12%, the QBloc is at 8%.

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