Appeasing Islam... Video clip.

[CrayonVonCaesar]

Appeasing Islam...

Watch this video:


What do you think about what he said?
Do you agree?
What do you disagree with and why?

[Scar Face]

The only people who can disagree with the video are people who are, through hate of their own culture and people, purposefully self deluded. Riots in Denmark, Sharia law, mosques in Britain preaching a take over, threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...I mean, only the truly self deluded can look at the events of the last ten years and go "Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

[Aziel]

The only people who can disagree with the video are people who are, through hate of their own culture and people, purposefully self deluded. Riots in Denmark, Sharia law, mosques in Britain preaching a take over, threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...I mean, only the truly self deluded can look at the events of the last ten years and go "Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

[PointOfViewGun]

The only people who can disagree with the video are people who are, through hate of their own culture and people, purposefully self deluded. Riots in Denmark, Sharia law, mosques in Britain preaching a take over, threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...I mean, only the truly self deluded can look at the events of the last ten years and go "Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

It's much more complex than that.

[Dr. Croccer]

The only people who can disagree with the video are people who are, through hate of their own culture and people, purposefully self deluded. Riots in Denmark, Sharia law, mosques in Britain preaching a take over, threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...I mean, only the truly self deluded can look at the events of the last ten years and go "Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

Because everyone who doesn't agree with a 10% minority is a PC coward. We already know Scarface, that you and, about 5 others are more ''enlightened'' than us and inform us whenever someone slips over a banana peel of a Muslim.

I stopped the video after ''Muslims demand''. Muslims don't demand anything. They aren't a collective hive. They're people who come here to work who happen to have a different religion from us. Big deal.

[Oglethorpe1983]

Because everyone who doesn't agree with a 10% minority is a PC coward.

You have missed the point entirely... Its not that the West doesnt agree with a minority...and thus must be racially intolerant...

its that a small group of people(Using your figures)10%...with the help of liberal institutions are forcing 90% of a population to accept the culture and rules of the minority...even to the point of superceding the rules and cultural elements of the majority.

That is the problem... it is the same in America.... in fact in someways it is worse....

One thing people need to remember tolerence is different from acceptence and aquiensence... There is nothing wrong with tolerating a minority... its how the civilized world functions...but when it evelves to aquiensence, especially when the minority culture is in stark contrast to the culture of the majority...and in many ways wishes to undermine or even destroy that majority culture...that is where big problems arise.

[Dr. Croccer]

You have missed the point entirely... Its not that the West doesnt agree with a minority...and thus must be racially intolerant...

its that a small group of people(Using your figures)10%...with the help of liberal institutions are forcing 90% of a population to accept the culture and rules of the minority...even to the point of superceding the rules and cultural elements of the majority.

That is the problem... it is the same in America.... in fact in someways it is worse....

One thing people need to remember tolerence is different from acceptence and aquiensence... There is nothing wrong with tolerating a minority... its how the civilized world functions...but when it evelves to aquiensence, especially when the minority culture is in stark contrast to the culture of the majority...and in many ways wishes to undermine or even destroy that majority culture...that is where big problems arise.

Erm, with the ''10%'' I meant the Islamohobes, not the Muslims.

[Norge]

Erm, with the ''10%'' I meant the Islamohobes, not the Muslims.

A number without any basis whatsoever. I think you and kb8 would be surprised of how many people who are sceptical to this neverending flood of muslim immigrants.

[Norge]

Because everyone who doesn't agree with a 10% minority is a PC coward.

10% minority of what?

We already know Scarface, that you and, about 5 others are more ''enlightened'' than us and inform us whenever someone slips over a banana peel of a Muslim.

"us" being who?

its that a small group of people(Using your figures)10%...with the help of liberal institutions are forcing 90% of a population to accept the culture and rules of the minority...even to the point of superceding the rules and cultural elements of the majority.

I think he means that those who are sceptical to Islam only constitute 10% of the population. ( of what population, I do not know.)

[Evil_Dane]

Because everyone who doesn't agree with a 10% minority is a PC coward. We already know Scarface, that you and, about 5 others are more ''enlightened'' than us and inform us whenever someone slips over a banana peel of a Muslim.

I stopped the video after ''Muslims demand''. Muslims don't demand anything. They aren't a collective hive. They're people who come here to work who happen to have a different religion from us. Big deal.

Sadly you didnt saw the truth, of course some muslims are good and racial and can live together with christians and probaly jews and they are also welcome. Here in Denmark there are 200000 muslims and 5000 are danes we had a bunch of problems with silly cartoons of a silly prophet named Muhammed and you probaly self saw it in the news where they did burn our nations flag which im very proud of since it was the first flag in the world. The muslims burned schools, containernes and much more down and when the firemens arrived to stop the fire the muslims fanatics throwed stones and bottles after them. Islam is a threat to Europe and the rest of the world liberal muslims are always welcome but people who set religion before a normal thinking must out.

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Hes 100% right islam is a problem and a threat to the known world but if they do think liberal they are welcome



Edited to merge double posts. ~ Montana

[Dr. Croccer]

Sadly you didnt saw the truth, of course some muslims are good and racial and can live together with christians and probaly jews and they are also welcome. Here in Denmark there are 200000 muslims and 5000 are danes we had a bunch of problems with silly cartoons of a silly prophet named Muhammed and you probaly self saw it in the news where they did burn our nations flag which im very proud of since it was the first flag in the world. The muslims burned schools, containernes and much more down and when the firemens arrived to stop the fire the muslims fanatics throwed stones and bottles after them. Islam is a threat to Europe and the rest of the world liberal muslims are always welcome but people who set religion before a normal thinking must out.

Case in point once again. Living in their own world, exaggerating things and ignoring facts.

Ok, but does Europe need to show more respect towards Muslims/Islam? If so, how?

Look, in western europe there are four groups: Muslims themselves; insanely islamophobic guys who do stupid things; insanely islamophiliac guys who do stupid things and average people. The former three constitute for a small procent of the population, 10% tops. The average folks opinions stretch from the second and the third and are often fine in balance. Respect hangs together with equality. If Muslims are treated like , then obviously the Muslims, Islamophiles and some of the average will be angry whilst the others are grinning, obviously causing a rift in equality and ergo respect. Same visa versa. Muslims should be entitled to the same rights the natives and other minorities get, no more, no less. No silly quarrels about Mosque building and Arbitration laws (rarely caused by Muslims themselves, but by the Islamophobes and Islamophiles)

Which is Jihad. A Koranically mandated activity.

Depends on what kind of Jihad. ''Jihad by Sword'' isn't really ''ALLAHU AKBAR. KILL. KILL.'' but more ''Kill enemies. But only if you must and the cause is just.'' Obviously this is like soft clay for any extremist, like to how God punishes people who sin often in the Bible at least twice which in the mind of an extremist can equal ''Sin = not listen to God, and Christianity is the religion of God so, not being Christian = sin which means you have to be punished in a benevolent God-like manner. God wills it!''

[Freddie]

I stopped the video after ''Muslims demand''. Muslims don't demand anything. They aren't a collective hive. They're people who come here to work who happen to have a different religion from us. Big deal.

Ok, but does Europe need to show more respect towards Muslims/Islam? If so, how?

Bin Laden did not destroy the towers on a Quranic mandate, he never claimed so either. He has always maintained the attack was to punish America for support of Israel. Always.

That was part of it but I think what really gets up Bin Laden’s goat is the fact America stationed its troops in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War. Most Muslim hot heads and terrorists don't give a monkeys toss about Israel and Palestine, Israel makes for a convenient justification for their actions but most terrorists are more interested in hurting the west rather then helping the Palestinians fight for their land.

[Scar Face]

Because everyone who doesn't agree with a 10% minority is a PC coward.

Correct.

We already know Scarface, that you and, about 5 others are more ''enlightened'' than us and inform us whenever someone slips over a banana peel of a Muslim.

We already know Dr. Croccer, that you and, about 5 others are more "enlightened" than us and inform us whenever someone slips over a banana peel, that it is the white mans fault.

I stopped the video after ''Muslims demand''. Muslims don't demand anything. They aren't a collective hive. They're people who come here to work who happen to have a different religion from us. Big deal.

Maybe you should crawl out of your dark room, read a book, watch the news, or talk to a minority once in a while- because you clearly have extremely limited knowledge, of, well, reality.

[Каие]

I agree the Muslims asking for more respect are stupid, but I only had to watch for a couple of seconds until;

"Close down the pubs, grow beards and beat up our women for not dressing like nuns..."

to understand where this was going, same place as always, and actually taints his otherwise sound argument.

[Каие]

Riots in Denmark

Riot in Germany just today, by Lefties.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7627047.stm

Riots in Serbia by whites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7626002.stm

, Sharia law,

The fact you keep repeating after being proved wrong time and time again, with cold hard British Legal documents proves this quote exactly.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Einstein
No matter how much you repeat it, it will not become true.

mosques in Britain preaching a take over

So does the BNP and NSDAP, yet you don't mind them...

threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...

Marches every day? Care to prove a statistic on that one? These views are supported by all Muslims?

"Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

No ones saying that at all, the problem has nothing to do with Natives versus Muslims,the fact you think so shows you're obvious lack of understanding of the human civilisation.

a) not all 'natives' think, believe or do the same thing
b) what happen if such a thing crosses and we get native muslims?
c) what is a native

I could go on....

[Major.Stupidity]

The only people who can disagree with the video are people who are, through hate of their own culture and people, purposefully self deluded. Riots in Denmark, Sharia law, mosques in Britain preaching a take over, threats of beheading, marches up and down the streets everyday telling other muslims not to trust the Kuufar...I mean, only the truly self deluded can look at the events of the last ten years and go "Muslims are fine, its the NATIVES who are the problem".

Seriously Scar Face?

[Heathen Hammer]

I'm 100% okay with muslims, just do not like when people try to impose their views on others - whoever they might be - muslim, christian or jewish.

[Ummon]

It's quite simple.

Nazis were evil, thus in the west we have grown an intellectual immune response towards anything racist, rightist, and discriminant. We have thought we could build a society based on reason, tolerance, and commercial enterprises.

We discounted one small factor. Reason is not the common value of mankind: it is neither frequent, nor widely appreciated. Tolerance is also a form of weakness, if misplaced. Commercial enterprises are a valueless activity: they give you money, but do not convince anyone to be your friend.

In any case don't worry, it is too late now. The vocal defenders of what is essentially a barbaric invasion, can use our own arguments agaisnt us. That is, because certainly, we have become too tolerant. But the road towards tolerance is much easier to thread in one sense than the other.

[Каие]

In any case don't worry, it is too late now. The vocal defenders of what is essentially a barbaric invasion, can use our own arguments agaisnt us. That is, because certainly, we have become too tolerant. But the road towards tolerance is much easier to thread in one sense than the other.

This argument, no longer works, it is quite clear that Europe's tolerance among some individuals is rather overrated, and confined only to be defined as a 'forced' tolerance, as in if they knew they could get away with it they would get rid of the browns.

I'm just glad the ordinary British people, and Germans and Europeans prove the bigots on this forum wrong, the racist wrong, and the intolerant wrong time and time again as was evident with today's royal schooling by the German Left of the European islamophobes.

I fully trust my fellow European citizens to tolerate me and respect me, as i to them. I will not, and neither will they, allow a small minority of fools to be their voice. European or Muslim.

[Ummon]

Don't worry: too few have realized the danger. Islam will cause serious trouble before being expelled, and even have a chance to take over.