Random and annoying CTD upon entering any campaign City Battle

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

This did not used to happen on my Epirote file, but I started a Carthaginian one and now it crashes whenever I enter battles, with no explanation.

The only thing I have changed was to enable the recruitment of Italic Legionaries, and that should affect nothing.

What's up?

[Stilgar CG]

Mr. Cursed, indeed

I have no clue, but I'll try to start a Carthage campaign and see whether I can start a battle. Hold on, Mr. Cursed!

Edit: I've got CTD the moment I started the battle as well (I attacked an Iberian city). No error messages. Sad.

[RedFox]

This seems to be quite a serious bug. I'll try and hunt down the cause of it.

It is definitely somehow related to carthaginian cities (so far). Try to have a custom battle with a carthaginian city will provide a CTD quite near the beginning(1/4) of the loading bar..
I have no idea what is causing it, though.

[RedFox]

After some frustrating trials and errors and mostly thanks to DimeBagHo, I was able to pinpoint the source and aspects of the CTD's.

Apparently the CTD is caused by Siege engines. I will work on a fix and post the important file in this thread, following with a new patch soon.

EDIT: There goes that idea.. still a CTD. Though it only happens if walls are present and Carthaginians are the attacking force.. A random and annoying CTD indeed.

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

...Hmmm...

How #blam!#. Guess that scraps that file, then.

My bro was playing it anyway; sucks for him!

RedFox, since when has "Sucks" become unacceptable language?

[RedFox]

It's got nothing to do with formations either and I'm fast running out of ideas... It has to do something with the siege engine, so I'll have a closer look at those and see if I can come up with anything useful.

[Stilgar CG]

RedFox, the only siege equipment I got with my CTD was battering ram.

I do not know if that's gonna help, but I can try the same assault a couple of times, but excluding one type of unit at a time. Perhaps, there is a problem with a particular unit.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll find the cause. I kicked Seleucid a$$es in weekend in my Achaean League campaing, and then played about 10 turns as Pergamum. All went well.

[RedFox]

It's definitely something to do with the ram then. I'll try and revert Eastern rams back to the ones that the greeks use and see how it goes.

[Stilgar CG]

RedFox, I checked Carthage on BI.exe. Same result: when spy opens the gate, I can assault, no problem, but with rams - CTD, and no error message.
ME

Edit: I could assault Syracuse with a siege tower (on Alex.exe). So, the battering ram theory seems to be the explanation.

[RedFox]

Well, it doesn't appear to have anything to do with "carthaginian" culture - any type of ram that romans_scipii (Carthage) tries to use will cause a CTD, even if I change the culture to "eastern". It makes no difference, so I've really run out of ideas...

[gaunty14]

off topic but i love those Halo spartan berserker's you added in to the rebel custom list


and how can you run out of ideas, your a genius for creating this mod

[Stilgar CG]

RedFox, just have a fresh look at the issue later (better, after a few days). Sometimes the solution is simple and just in front of us, but we focus on more complex scenarios. A fresh look might help to see that solution.
Looking forward to playing Carthage in XGMD style!

[RedFox]

The thing is, the Carthaginians used to play fine! I haven't changed things that radically, so it must be something else. Sure, it has something to do with siege rams, but I know that's not the case (well it just isn't or it would be fixed already..). What is certain though, is that it crashes 1/3 through the loading bar and that's about it. Even if you're defending! So it's definitely just something that makes no sense what so ever.

*sigh* - The only way to enjoy yourself for now will be to play Carthage only in field battles and try luring the enemies out of the walls..

As for the Halo Spartans, yeah, I'm a diehard Halo CE fan (still play it) and decided to test my skills a little and make it work for RTW. Apparently it came out pretty well, 3ds Max is quite a powerful software and baked the textures just the right way - making them look quite exceptionally good on the RTW engine.
If you guys have no bloody idea what I'm talkin about (the Spartan unit), then here:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Stilgar CG]

Yeah, RedFox, I recall seeing those guys a while ago. They look great on RTW engine, no argument there . And, melee and missile stats are well balanced, indeed . Perhaps, you should "stick" them into XGMD as bonus content, on a sunny day. I mean as a unit playable in custom battle.

[RedFox]

Heh. Better yet. If you're playing a campaign, select an army, open up the console and type "oliphaunt". It'll give you the Mjolnr Spartans unit - they can't be defeated by anything though.. So if you're having problems with endless Seleucid stacks, feel free to auto-resolve

[Stilgar CG]

Wow, thanks, man. And you kept silence till now?! Autoresolve?! Are you kidding? Battles. No, night battles only (to see those nice red-hot-chilli halo spartans ) These guys can break walls, right? Who needs those battering rams then?

[Athenogoras]

You havent changed the AI-formations file? And the siegeengines are categorised as such?

[RedFox]

I haven't touched anything related to Carthage in the AI formations file and the siege engines work perfectly fine.

This is specifically something to do with Carthage(romans_scipii), city battles, walls and rams.
Doesn't matter if Carthage is attacking/defending. So yeah, completely random and annoying CTD.

[Athenogoras]

Then I have no idea. The description seemed consistent with my own CTD:s modding Chivalry-formations. CTD when quarter of the loadingbar is filled.
Good Luck

[RedFox]

Have you figured out what caused the CTD on your formations? If you do, it would be of great help, because this too CTD'd 1/4 the loading bar and sometimes 1/3 the way.