Why is your posion hollier then mine?

[Axeman]

Welcome to my latest : legalize marijuana thread , No I am not stoned at the moment of writting this. All sources for which I have made health statements are towards the bottom of the page.

Now , I will ask you this , why is your posion holier then mine?

Is it magically ok to say that ciggaretes while being more harmful in terms of physical dependance , addiction , and number of carcinogens but it is just bad to smoke weed? Why?

Lets look at Cannabis' current role in society. A well enjoyed but detested drug , which many people have smoked and ended up not dead in the gutter , yeah impossible right?

Is Cannabis bad? Absolutely. But its all about choice , you choose to do the rather unpleasent act of killing a fetus or smoking a ciggarete , I should be able to smoke a bowl at the expense of my lungs and not go to jail for 10 years.

Now lets examine the pros of legalization.

1- Reduced Crime : its no secret that when there is something illegal people want crime will come , QED : prohabition . What a massive failure that was , need I explain why it will reduce crime , well I will anyway.

2- Quality Control : a common tactic of drug dealers is to lace Cannabis with other more addictive drugs such as Cocaine or Methampheatmines , with Quality Control we will be able to make sure it is pure Cannabis

3- Profit : less money spend on resources fighting , destroying , and finding an illegal drug , not to mention the easy taxation of this new legal drug.

Those are the big three , but there are more if you think about it .

Now , health effects:

Cannabis is damaging , I will not deny that , but isn't any free democracy all about choice? People can smoke and drink , those are bad too guys... Unless you believe in complete hypocrisy you should either outlaw all those silly toxins or at least legalize this one , now...

Lets compare Cannabis to Tobbaco and Alchool

Graph curteousy of the Lancet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet

Unless this is a big conspiracy it seems the overall scientific concensius is that overall Cannabis is less harmful for you , but I know you want more sources so I have decided to give...

While smoking Cannabis is harmful , this method has been proven to reduce it , but does reduce euphoria.
http://harmreductionjournal.com/content/4/1/11

Evidently long term Cannabis smokers show less lung damage then Ciggarete smokers...
http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/T...igarettes.html

Also less damage compared to alchool users overall *obviously not in hte lungs*
http://www.24hourforums.com/forum116/8554.html

So, I ask , why is your posion hollier then mine?

[Heathen Hammer]

I agree 100%. Marijuana should be legalised.

[Chaigidel]

I disagree that cannabis is bad--- LEGALIZE IT!!!!!

DONT PENALIZE IT !!!!

and yeah a vaporizer makes it completely clean , you dont even get smoke in your lungs.

not that I would know anything about any of that.

[Da Skinna]

Are you drunk?


Anyways, I agree completely. I even wrote a thread a long time ago, actually titled "Your Drugs Are NO Holier Than Mine!"

[Viking Prince]

Legalise, but be able to test for those that are so irresponsible to be operating vehicles and working in jobs that require cleat minds. If you cannot test on the spot and get a result, then do not legalise. Simple enough.

Oh -- and tax the heck out of it.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Man's vices are never tiny.

[wilting]

A fellow student of mine did a project on this. Legalisation is really the only rational conclusion when presented with the facts.

Legalise. Regulate. Tax.

Incidentally, that applies to all drugs. Prostitution too.

The major problem with all these things is the crime element. Legalisation takes that away. The drugs aren't particularly good, but there no worse than alcohol, and that situation is improved by regulation and improved access to treatment possible due to legalisation.

[Dr. Croccer]

More proof that Afrikaners are Dutch. Look at the mentality!

[Cliomhdubh]

they should legalise all drugs

[adamove]

no it is bad, you smoke than you go crazy and shoot people on the streets, that how it goes

Smoking anything is extrymly unhealty, its like putting a hot rod in your azz

[thatguy]

no it is bad, you smoke than you go crazy and shoot people on the streets, that how it goes

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If that was true, there would be alot more killings on the street.
You know ALOT of people smoke weed right?
I mean a fricken lot. Plus, most people dont get off the couch when they're stoned. They really dont have the will power or energy to do it.

I think Cannabis legalisation is a great idea, more because it weeds out (haha, get it?) the stupid people society probably doesnt need.
Plus, extra cash for the government from all the tax.

[Erlinggra]

For a rational perspective weed should be legalized and it’s the pharmaceutical drugs that should be criminalized. (Look at what killed Mr. Ledger and Ms Nicole Smith)

[WrathofTulkas]

Im really apathetic on this issue b/c if you dont understand that cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana can seriously you up... well then, I wont feel bad when you die an a car accident and/or die of cancer. At least if it was legal the taxes could go to something useful

[Iscariott]

Im really apathetic on this issue b/c if you dont understand that cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana can seriously you up... well then, I wont feel bad when you die an a car accident and/or die of cancer. At least if it was legal the taxes could go to something useful

Yeah, just so you know. We're all well aware of the physical harms of smoking. Have been for the last 25+ years. Same with liver damage from drinking, though that one goes back what 150 years now?

Some of us just like the effects more than the side effects.

[Erlinggra]

If people want to get ed up they should have the right to. It would also save a LOT of police recourses

[Perkele]

My body, my choice. God damn 20th century puritanists tried to take away everything. We took back alcohol, but now we need to take back the rest.

[Da Skinna]

It's proper education.

Drugs are neither bad nor good. They are tools. You can sit under a tree with your favorite book and a joint in hand or literally chew through your own cheek on PCP.

It's your life, but have the ing responsibility to learn about life before using it.

[Roman Rapper]

Yes, It should be legal, as should every other currently illegal drug.

It should all be legal, and the fact that so many of my fellow human beings can't understand that makes me almost ashamed to call myself a human being.

[Astaroth]

Yes, It should be legal, as should every other currently illegal drug.

It should all be legal, and the fact that so many of my fellow human beings can't understand that makes me almost ashamed to call myself a human being.

Wait, you don't understand why Heroine and Coke are so dangerous?

[Jack of Clubs]

I'm in 6th form and the school still shows us videos about how smoking and cannabis and what not ruins you life etc. etc. which although I think is highly over-empathised may contain some correct information. I believe people who do smoke cannabis, it causes a lifestyle change which i find is often highly unhealthy. If it were legalized many people possibly like yourselves, would enjoy it responsibly but just as many wouldn't. Also in reference to your point about things like prohibition failing, it failed due to alcohol been accepted by society and in culture over generations not because of the actual drug itself. Plus although if cannabis were legal the cannabis itslef would be much safer but i still feel many people would continue onto harder drugs that have much worse effects.

Thanks,
Jack of Clubs