Lorien AI

**Ultra_Magnus** · September 19, 2008, 05:18 PM

It is probably a bit early to be talking about AI and their tactics but i was wandering how Lorien would be in the campaign. Will they be scripted to expand or will they turtle with lots of money and some kickass units to destroy any orc filth that try and invade? cheers for answers and thoughts.

**Roger the Shrubber** · September 19, 2008, 07:03 PM

I think that they should be defensive.

**Jimbe** · September 19, 2008, 08:15 PM

I think they should be defensive too. (but I don't know if thats possible, being a noob

)
allthough it would be funny watching lorien attacking isengard and Orcs of MM then expanding into eriador, slaughtering little hobbits.

**The Big Red 1** · September 19, 2008, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbe

I think they should be defensive too. (but I don't know if thats possible, being a noob

)
allthough it would be funny watching lorien attacking isengard and Orcs of MM then expanding into eriador, slaughtering little hobbits.

It is a TW game....

**Code_Knight** · September 19, 2008, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbe

I think they should be defensive too. (but I don't know if thats possible, being a noob

)
allthough it would be funny watching lorien attacking isengard and Orcs of MM then expanding into eriador, slaughtering little hobbits.

There's a difference between a Newb and a Noob my friend.

Lorien should be different then the other elvish faction, so it should have very good defensive units and buildings.

**Varjon** · September 20, 2008, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Code_Knight

There's a difference between a Newb and a Noob my friend.

Lorien should be different then the other elvish faction, so it should have very good defensive units and buildings.

But that will be little hard since Shved isn't going to include Lothlórien as its own faction in first release.

**Roger the Shrubber** · September 20, 2008, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Varjon

But that will be little hard since Shved isn't going to include Lothlórien as its own faction in first release.

That could be a problem, yes.

**King Kong** · September 20, 2008, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Varjon

But that will be little hard since Shved isn't going to include Lothlórien as its own faction in first release.

Yes, Shved won't do that anyway and me neither and you all could know when you look at the faction list thread.

as much as I hate to do that: thread closed.

**Roger the Shrubber** · September 19, 2008, 08:34 PM

But I think Lorien should be primarily defensive and only attack the areas around their region.

**Jimbe** · September 20, 2008, 03:11 AM

I meant their behaviour and stuff, so they don't make a huge empire but stay in their woods

**Paulus Rubio** · September 20, 2008, 03:39 AM

Well, as Code_Knight said, the focus of the armed forces of Lorien will be defensive. My guess is that they wont have much heavy cavalry, nor siege weapons beyond the default ones.
It's true that in the books and works of Tolkien, Lorien was never a very offensive faction, but that is somewhat irrelevant in my opinion, as this is nothing but a mod for Medieval 2: Total War. Im sure we've all experienced that a rather weak (and defensive) faction has captured regions and destroyed other factions way beyond their potential. I've seen factions such as Denmark and Scotland destroy the likes of HRE and England without any "player" interference, and this wasn't very historically accurate to say the least.

My point in all this, is that it wouldn't be "fair" to force the Lorien AI to dwell in their woods. Give them defensive armies, I totally agree on that, but with some luck and the x factor, I still think they should be able to conquer Moria and even Isengard.