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    Default Royal Women micromod



    I posted this on the main forum, but I don't want it to get lost so I figured I would place it here even though it is a very small mod.

    Even with the sexist attitudes of the medieval era, it was considered that nobility and bloodlines, even some titles or even claims over lands and kingdoms were also transmitted by the mother. E.g., a grandson of the great king Caralampio I would still be proud of his line even if his relation was through the king's daughter, and he would be considered rightly a member of the Royal family.

    In Stainless Steel the "of xxx blood" (xxx being English, French, etc.) is onl y transmitted by the father, so some prefer to not marry their princesses so to keep the bloodline. In this little tweak, I have made it so "of xxx blood" is also transmitted by the mother (a princess, not the generic women that only appear on the tree).
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    The file export_descr_character_traits that is in the Royalwomen folder will give you the basic micromod, which will have the following effects:

    -The sons of your princesses that remained in your faction will have the "of xxx blood" trait. For instance if you are Castile, the son of your princess that married to Juan de Talavera will be of Spanish blood, descendant of the famous Alfonso VI. But, his name will be de Talavera; can't deny the rights of the father OK? His male descendants will also continue the bloodline, but it will be lost on his daughters (unless he becomes heir, then his daughters will be princesses and keep the bloodline).

    -If your king or heir marry foreign princesses, they will not transmit their bloodlines into your family, neither will your princesses that you give away to other factions, transmit your bloodline to that faction.

    The net effect is that you no longer need to be so wary of marrying your pirncesses, their sons will at least be of the blood and in case they becomes heirs or kings at least something of the founding dynasty will be kept. This is the version I'm using and the one I recommend.

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    The other file export_descr_character_traits that is inside the 'European Bloodlines' folder will give you all the bloodlines of princesses. I included it because some said they might like multiple bloodlines. I consider it experimental.

    If your heir or king marries a foreign princess, the descendants will also have the mother's line. For instance, if Rodrigo the prince of Castile marries Constance Capet of France, their son will be both "of English blood" and "of French blood". The funny part is that the trait description for French blood will say that he is very loyal to the Capet line... but the +1 Loyalty he gets from the trait is for Spain, not France. (I might fix the text for the trait later so it makes more sense).

    If you give your princess away to another country, you might well later on encounter foreign generals that claim your faction's bloodline... She will give it to her sons. This is purely a trait though, no danger of him claiming your throne!

    You have to be careful not to clutter your family with too many bloodlines I think. For instance, Rodrigo's son above who has both Spanish and French royal ascendants, if he marries a Polish princess his sons will be of French, Spanish and Polish ascent. If one of these sons marries a Danish princess, his sons will be of French, Spanish, Polish and Danish blood...

    And, princesses will get all of daddy's bloodlines, and transmit them to their sons.

    ***A version with BGR traits removed can be found in post #19.
    Last edited by caralampio; September 20, 2008 at 09:49 AM.

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    Nice mod. +Rep.
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    Default Re: Royal Women micromod

    could we have some screen shots fo what your talking about? I'm interested in this mod. plus rep.


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    Yes I wanna see an screenshotting description +rep for your effort!

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    me too

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    screenshots? why? it just makes it so that anyone with direct relations (either by mother or father) to the original founder of the dynasty is "of royal blood"
    addicted modder... but crap at it

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    Cool +rep

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    Nice Mod +rep. How about compatibility with other SS sub-mods ?

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    +rep from me. Very nice and interesting

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    Dude....this was devious. No rep for you until you release a version that does not include all the BYG grim reality traits.

    Screwed my game up it did.
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    What about compatibility with SSTC and Barser's Faction Leaders and Generals ?

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    @texasassasin: I don't have BGR on my game, never installed it, I don't see how you got those traits.

    Compatibility with other sub mods: I haven't tested it, but any submod that does not affect export_descr_character_traits should be compatible.

    Royal Women in action:



    I just had the chance to put RW to good use. My Norwegian heir (a) had only daughters. I needed generals so I accepted an adoption for the king (b). The king dies, and the upstart becomes heir. He in turn adopted two generals, c and d.

    So, I just married c to the oldest princess as soon as she became of age, and d is betrothed to the next one. So, if c has a male son, he will be through his mother of Norwegian blood, and a descendant of Haakon Haakonsson will again sit on the throne after a two-generation gap. You might even consider c just a regent or a prince-consort, from a roleplaying view.

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    Thanks guys. Nice mod i will try it then + rep.

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    should be compatible.

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    Ok..I went into your export_descr_character_traits that I downloaded....alt F, typed BYG and there it was a big long list of byg's traits. I deleted them all and it works fine now.

    It was in your file though...I opened up a fresh download of it...without putting it in stainless steel...just to my desktop...and bygs traits are in there.

    Just a heads up if they are accidentally in there.

    Besides that good work and +rep. =)
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    Which entries did you delete ? All entries after ";********* BYG'S REALITY & SUPPLY TRAITS *********" or just the first one ?
    Thanks in advance

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    When I installed SS I didn't check BGR. I never have seen War Councils, zeal, or things like that. I HAD noticed those Byg traits in export_descr_character_traits, but I figured they came with SS, since there even is a window that appears when you start the game with "the supply system". Which, BTW, I cut out from my own game long ago, like you did!

    But for this mod I used the backed-up file I had, because I wanted it to be as close to the original as possible in order to not interfere with other mods... Go figure...

    All you need to do is delete the triggers. Search for "Trigger SupplyStart" and delEte everything from that line down to right before "START OF BBB TRIGGERS".

    Edit: I found the cause. When installing, I did not check BGR III, but I also had to check "remove BGR II supply system" and I didn't do it.
    Last edited by caralampio; September 20, 2008 at 09:45 AM.

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    See next.
    Last edited by caralampio; September 20, 2008 at 09:49 AM.

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    Here is the version with BGR traits removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtNase View Post
    Which entries did you delete ? All entries after ";********* BYG'S REALITY & SUPPLY TRAITS *********" or just the first one ?
    Thanks in advance
    I deleted the line that says BYGs ******* all the way down to BBB triggers.

    You can just download the new link.

    and thx caralampio for not think I was a crazy person. lol. Thx for checking.


    P.S. I tried keeping in the monument traits because they are just cool, but it crashed my game when I got into combat. So those had to go too. =(
    Last edited by Texassassin; September 20, 2008 at 01:46 PM.
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