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    Pakistan Invades America — “Without Permission”

    by M. Junaid Levesque-Alam / September 18th, 2008

    The U.S. State Department lodged a sharp protest over ongoing Pakistani missile strikes and ground raids today, saying the Islamic Republic was violating American sovereignty.

    “We will try to convince Pakistan…to respect [the] sovereignty of the United States — and God willing, we will convince,” State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters.1

    The controversy stems from the Pakistan Army’s recent decision, leaked in a prominent Pakistani newspaper, to mount intensifying air attacks and new ground assaults against extremists hiding in American safe havens across the ocean.

    American papers reported that under the new policy, the Pakistani military will no longer seek America’s permission in killing Americans, but will inform American diplomats about these killings as a friendly gesture between close allies.2

    Pakistan Army General Ashfaq Kayani told reporters outside Islamabad late last night that the new strategy was justified. “We are working to prevent more attacks on the Pakistani people,” he said.3

    The general’s stance signified strong Pakistani dissatisfaction with America’s reluctance to crack down on religious fundamentalists and neoconservatives, who, experts note, have deep ties to American intelligence services and military leaders. The largely unchecked extremists, experts observe, have used America to bolster the agenda of their ideological counterparts across the ocean in Israel, and to strike directly against Pakistan and other parts of the Muslim world.

    “We have to strike them over there so that they cannot order strikes against us here at home,” General Kayani said, referring to American firepower that has terrorized hundreds of thousands of civilians on either side of the Pak-Afghan border and in the Middle East.

    As Kayani spoke, new precision attacks and commando raids were being conducted against ranches in Texas, small towns in Alaska, the offices of AIPAC and energy-related lobbying firms in Washington, D.C. Commandos were also dispatched to America’s unruly federally-administered Bible Belt, where resentment of government authority runs high.

    Several high-value targets were killed in the attacks. Local media outlets claimed 50 civilians were also killed, but these assertions could not be independently verified. Pakistani officials said they would send in their own team to investigate the claims, time permitting.

    Seeking to assuage domestic concerns, American officials downplayed the actions of their staunch ally. “The nation should not be upset by the statement of Pakistani General Kayani,” White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said in an official statement.4 “Pakistan respect U.S. sovereignty and looks at us as partners,” she added.5

    Regimes allied to Pakistan, including those in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Palestine, expressed support for the new Pakistani strategy, citing the need to “remove and destroy” strongholds where key militants have masterminded attacks against their countries.6

    Informed of this, Ambassador Patterson appeared unfazed, saying, “Pakistan respects American sovereignty.” She insisted that Pakistani officials provided her with assurances that “no such order had been given” for new rules of engagement.7 Finally, the ambassador explained, America had already carried out its own recent military offensive that left hundreds of rural Americans dead, relieving the need for further Pakistani intervention.

    But in Islamabad, Pakistani corps commanders said their new strategy would see continued implementation in the coming weeks. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one commander said that as far as Pakistan was concerned, “most things have been settled in terms of how we’re going to proceed.”8
    http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/0...ut-permission/

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    Well I guess it would be a little better if the American government was harboring the extremists while telling Pakistan that they were going to be handled by American law enforcement, but the Americans don't know where they are. And if most of the American people thought the extremists should be given safe haven in America, but president Bush swore up and down to root them out and stop them even though his own cabinet members met with them regularly.

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    BAH! This is a load of crap. If Pakistan can't stop the stream of militants crossing its borders, we will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killerken View Post
    BAH! This is a load of crap. If Pakistan can't stop the stream of militants crossing its borders, we will.
    AMERICA YEAH
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    Quote Originally Posted by killerken View Post
    BAH! This is a load of crap. If Pakistan can't stop the stream of militants crossing its borders, we will.
    Exactly right!
    Make America great again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Exactly right!
    and u just gonna lose another ally at the end. I don't see how that is rational. The last thing America needs in that region is having a conflict (potentially deadly) with the Pakistan army.
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    What a bunch of crap. Whats next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos_Rouvelas View Post
    What a bunch of crap. Whats next?

    June 6,1944

    On this date, Allied troops began a brutal offensive against German positions in France. After heroically staving off the Allied horde, which outnumbered them 2 to 1, the valiant German defenders were brutally crushed by the allies. Allied forces then proceeded to loot and destroy the French countryside and cities while the heroic German defenders were making their retreat.
    How exactly can that be "next" - it happened over 60 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    How exactly can that be "next" - it happened over 60 years ago.
    Its a revisionist history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos_Rouvelas View Post
    Its a revisionist history.
    More like a propagandistic pro-German view. This, the article I posted, is political satire that is obviously a little too suttle as you confuse it for "revisionist history". I don't think anyone is seriously claiming that Pakistan has historically invaded the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    More like a propagandistic pro-German view. This, the article I posted, is political satire that is obviously a little too suttle as you confuse it for "revisionist history". I don't think anyone is seriously claiming that Pakistan has historically invaded the US.
    I meant with the trends of liberalism that are currently in the USA I wouldn't be surprised if what I wrote will be in American text books.
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    Lol, so true.

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    Lol, somehow it took me a while to get what this is all about.


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    That reminds me.

    For all the Americans shocked by this thread: you are not being invaded by Pakistan. This article is political satire.

    http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=390
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    The title of this thread is misleading.

    America did go into Pakistan with their government's permission.

    They'd just have to keep up appearances, hence all the "outrage" in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    The title of this thread is misleading.

    America did go into Pakistan with their government's permission.

    They'd just have to keep up appearances, hence all the "outrage" in the media.
    Seriously Caelius, must you be a buzz kill? Not only that, do you have....proof to back up your claim?
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    What? Pakistan is invading America? NOOO!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire le Philosophe View Post
    What? Pakistan is invading America? NOOO!!!!
    Bah, they're crappy shots, even if this was true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    It was made to try to get America to understand what it is like should something similar happen to them.

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    Great stuff.
    It sucks.
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    with a few bad apples
    right toward the top.

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