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    Default Accused war criminal returns to hero welcome in FYROM

    Former interior minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) Ljube Boskovski, aquitted of war crimes, has been given a hero's reception of government officials and nationalist groups greeted him in Skopje. Earlier this month former interior minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) Ljube Boskovski was been aquitted of war crimes in the Hague. His bodyguard, Johan Tarculovski, on the other hand was jailed for 11 years for the deaths of ethnic Albanians in 2001 in the village of Ljuboten.
    On July 11 he was given a hero's reception in Skopje from government officials and nationalist groups. The crowd of people greeted Boskovski, who had become somewhat of martyr figure for nationalists while in custody in the Hague, shouted anti-Albanian and anti-Greek slogans and brandished maps of 'Greater Macedonia'. The rally in Boskovski's honour is yet another sign of what observers note as sharp rise in nationalist feelings in the landlocked, former Yugoslav republic.


    The Press Association reported other slogans and t-shirts as brandishing the slogan "Victory for Macedonia". Prime Minister Gruevski, church officials and other supporters greeted him at the airport as Boskovski kissed the tarmac proclaiming "this is a great day".
    Critics of the Hague's decision to aquitt Boskovski have said the decision is yet another example of the inherent flaw of war crimes proceedings where the figures of higher authorities issuing orders are spared while only subordinants and those merely carrying out the orders suffer consequences.
    In the midst of the celebrations, government officials also expressed regret at the conviction of Johan Tarculovski for three murders, cruelty and wanton destruction of property in the ethnic Albanian village in 2001.
    i would like to see what people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpowers View Post
    i would like to see what people think.
    ...not cool?




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    yes of course. anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpowers View Post
    yes of course. anything else?
    was he acquiited? then that would mean he is innocent according to due process and all that jazz.




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    2 July 2008 03:44am

    Macedonian government officials and a large crowd have given a hero's welcome to a former interior minister acquitted of war crimes by a UN tribunal.
    Ljube Boskovski spent more than three years in The Hague, Netherlands, tribunal detention unit on trial over a 2001 police attack on an ethnic Albanian village that killed seven people. He was acquitted on Thursday.
    Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, government and church officials, friends and family lined the runway at Skopje's airport to greet Boskovski.
    About 500 supporters in red T-shirts with Boskovski's photo and the slogan "Victory for Macedonia" waved flags and banners.
    "This is a great day," Boskovski told the crowd, after kissing the tarmac. "Thank you for gathering here in such numbers."
    The Hague court jailed former police officer Johan Tarculovski, 33, for 12 years for three murders, cruelty and wanton destruction in the same case.
    The attack on Ljuboten is the only atrocity in Macedonia that led to an indictment by the UN's International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.
    The tiny landlocked country broke away peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but was rocked by a six-month conflict in 2001 between government forces and ethnic Albanians fighting for more rights.
    Ljuboten, six miles north of the capital, Skopje, was believed to support ethnic Albanian rebels.
    Many Macedonians regard both Boskovski and Tarculovski as heroes. The government has welcomed Boskovski's acquittal, but expressed regret over Tarculovski's conviction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpowers View Post
    2 July 2008 03:44am

    Macedonian government officials and a large crowd have given a hero's welcome to a former interior minister acquitted of war crimes by a UN tribunal.
    Ljube Boskovski spent more than three years in The Hague, Netherlands, tribunal detention unit on trial over a 2001 police attack on an ethnic Albanian village that killed seven people. He was acquitted on Thursday.
    Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, government and church officials, friends and family lined the runway at Skopje's airport to greet Boskovski.
    About 500 supporters in red T-shirts with Boskovski's photo and the slogan "Victory for Macedonia" waved flags and banners.
    "This is a great day," Boskovski told the crowd, after kissing the tarmac. "Thank you for gathering here in such numbers."
    The Hague court jailed former police officer Johan Tarculovski, 33, for 12 years for three murders, cruelty and wanton destruction in the same case.
    The attack on Ljuboten is the only atrocity in Macedonia that led to an indictment by the UN's International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.
    The tiny landlocked country broke away peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but was rocked by a six-month conflict in 2001 between government forces and ethnic Albanians fighting for more rights.
    Ljuboten, six miles north of the capital, Skopje, was believed to support ethnic Albanian rebels.
    Many Macedonians regard both Boskovski and Tarculovski as heroes. The government has welcomed Boskovski's acquittal, but expressed regret over Tarculovski's conviction.
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    Since he was acquited I see no problem with this.
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    Default Re: Accused war criminal returns to hero welcome in FYROM

    He aint thaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean....what are his crimes again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    He aint thaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean....what are his crimes again?
    killing albanians, probably civillians.




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    Since none of the moderation is from the Balkans, I will be deleting any post that uses non-English words to describe a people.
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    If thats so, you could just change the name, knowing that it pretty much means albanian. Why didnt you tell the real reason?

    I could be wrong though. So i will repeat my last post, simply by changing any non-english names.

    I was speaking about how albanians seem to be the protected people in the balkans, blessed by American and NATO support. Once they begin their classic massive ethnic cleansing, their military policies ever since the Nazi Scanderbeg division, they are always justified. And when one of the poor nations of the Balkans, call it Serbia, FYROM, Greece, anything, defends....well....then we are the terrorists....aint this how is going?
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    If it just means Albanian than say Albanian. I do not know if that is a perjorative word towards Albanians, thus I am going to side with caution since you used it instead of simply saying Albanian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    Siptar is their name in Serbian
    Shqip is in their own language

    Believe me there is no word offensive enough for them.

    Besides, i wouldnt risk another ban just to let off steam in a forum. I can comply with the forum rules even if in my real life they wouldnt mean anything.
    I get the feeling you're pretty angry with NATO's actions in the Balkans. Dont ethnically cleanse cos the US Navy>most of Eastern Europe.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    I get the feeling you're pretty angry with NATO's actions in the Balkans. Dont ethnically cleanse cos the US Navy>most of Eastern Europe.
    Yes yes. You are not allowed to cleanse ethnically unless you are albanian. Its pretty much who is more sold out and to whom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    Siptar is their name in Serbian
    Shqip is in their own language

    Believe me there is no word offensive enough for them.

    Besides, i wouldnt risk another ban just to let off steam in a forum. I can comply with the forum rules even if in my real life they wouldnt mean anything.
    Albanians take "Siptar" as a offensive word ,and u know that.

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    Albanians take "Siptar" as a offensive word ,and u know that.
    If the word is an ethnic slur, you have the right to report him because he's breaking the terms of service.


    On topic, his accused crimes, compared to those of say Serbia is extremely trifling. In Serbia, they riot when ICTY Punish mass rapists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komita View Post
    Albanians take "Siptar" as a offensive word ,and u know that.
    We are not gonna change our language because of what they think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    We are not gonna change our language because of what they think.

    You cant use names for someone which he don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komita View Post
    You cant use names for someone which he don't like.
    I don't like people calling me Norwegian.

    Use Nordmann instead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komita View Post
    You cant use names for someone which he don't like.
    They call us terrorists (look who's talking about) and a vast number of not-so-kind epithets which i dont like. If an albanian call us terrorists here, there wont be a problem. But if i do the same, i will get warnings, ban, deleted posts itd

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpowers View Post
    i would like to see what people think.
    I don't know, ask the Nationalist parties, they only make up like 2% of the populace.

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