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    From the Times:

    Moscow prosecutors began legal proceedings aimed at the cartoon series South Park today in a bid to kill Kenny in Russia.

    Prosecutors took action against the 2x2 television channel for broadcasting an episode of the animated comedy show that featured Christmas songs including a medley duet performed by Santa Claus and Jesus Christ.

    The Basmanny regional prosecutors office in Moscow has announced that the programme "bore signs of extremist activity".

    The episode in question called Mr Hankey’s Christmas Classics was aired in Moscow in January. It shows a number of regular and guest characters including Satan, Adolf Hitler and an anthropomorphised human faeces called Mr Hankey performing in a Christmas variety show. An accompanying CD is available to buy.

    Valentina Titova, a spokeswoman for the prosecutors office said: "In accordance with the conclusions made by experts from the court investigations committee, a claim has been filed against 2x2 for its broadcast of an episode of South Park."

    The cartoon series made by Matt Stone and Trey Parker since 1997 has attracted criticism throughout its award-winning run and often targets special interest groups and religions for mockery.

    A statement by Moscow prosecutors read: "It offends the honour and dignity of Christians and Muslims alike." It could just have easily included Jews, Scientologists, Catholics, Mormons and Moonies all of whom have been mercilessly targeted by American series.

    Authorities in the Philippines threatened to ban the programme in 2006 and scores of groups around the world have campaigned against broadcasting the series. The creators respond by describing themselves as "equal opportunity offenders".

    The Russian Union of Christians of Evangelical Faith asked prosecutors to ban South Park last week after it said 20 experts had studied the show for its effect on young viewers.

    Konstantin Bendas, a spokesman for the group, said "South Park is just one of many cartoons that need to be banned from open broadcast. . . as it insults the feelings of religious believers and incites religious and national hatred.

    "It’s one thing if they are on cable TV and viewers pay money and make a conscious choice. But young children should not be able to turn on the TV after school and watch this. They need to be defended.

    "Our complaint is against a lot of cartoons, but this one was from South Park season three, episode 15," he said.

    Mr Hankey’s Christmas Classics was first broadcast in the United States on December 1, 1999, a total of 12 series have been made so far. It was unclear today what the Russian Union of Christians of Evangelical Faith thought about the other 174 episodes of the series, which has won two Emmy awards during the past eleven years.

    The prosecutors said they agreed with the Christian group that the programme "could provoke ethnic conflict and spark inter-religious hatred".

    Russia passed a 2006 law widening the definition of extremism to include "the abasement of national dignity" and "inciting religious and national hatred", which backers say was needed to stem a wave of violence aimed at ethnic minorities.

    The prosecutor's office has sent the case to court and has also issued a warning to the 2x2 TV Channel that airs the show.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4704089.ece

    This is hardly the first case in which a group has called for the banning of South Park - the show tends to step on all toes equally and has made a lot of enemies (not least of which is the Scientology group). But taking a major step towards banning it because it "bears signs of extremist activity?" What? When I think of extremist activity, I think of Al-Qaeda, radical Islam, the KKK, Birth of a Nation, Russian ultranationalists, Triumph of the Will...that type of thing. But South Park, a show that has made a name for itself by mocking extremists of all stripes? Even under Russia's absurdly totalitarian definition of extremism ("abasement of national dignity" in addition to the standard "inciting religious or ethnic hatred"), I fail to see how South Park qualifies. The show has been running for close to 12 years in the United States and close to a decade in other Western countries, yet I have never heard of even a single isolated incidence of racial or religious violence being caused by viewers of the show as a result of their viewership. Yet the Russian prosecutors office seems to think that the cartoon "could provoke ethnic conflict and spark inter-religious hatred."

    Uh-huh.

    I'm not sure which implication from that statement portrays a more accurate picture of the sorry state of affairs in Russia today: the fact that the Russian prosecutors office seems to think that the Russian people are so inherently bigoted as to lash out in ethnic conflict (something that typically makes me think of Rwanda or Iraq under Saddam) because of something a widespread cartoon character says, or that civil liberties in Russia have been shredded to the point that adults can't even watch the cartoons anymore without official Russian approval.

    How sad.
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    The relevant link to the episode is http://www.southparkstudios.com/guid...x.php?season=3

    btw. it is a legal link. They put them all online for free.

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    Only in Russia...or Venezuela...

    I was just thinking,are they dumb or something?Wtf...long live the freedom of speech...


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    Now, that's a real reason to start a war. Hands off of South Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of God View Post
    Only in Russia...or Venezuela...
    Of course, because there are no religious groups or courts in the rest of the world...

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    I'm sure that if they do ban it Parker and Stone will have an episode just for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    I'm sure that if they do ban it Parker and Stone will have an episode just for them.
    If they do Russia will bomb Georgia.... the other Georgia.
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    That's probably what the episode will be about.

    Some Russians get so drunk on vodka they bomb the wrong Georgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    That's probably what the episode will be about.

    Some Russians get so drunk on vodka they bomb the wrong Georgia.
    Featuring voices from the cast of Red Dawn, I hope.
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    Russia on the verge of banning South Park
    they call it freedom of speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    That's probably what the episode will be about.

    Some Russians get so drunk on vodka they bomb the wrong Georgia.
    Except Georgia and Georgia are two completely different words in Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therussian View Post
    Except Georgia and Georgia are two completely different words in Russian.
    oh no.. it doesn't make perfect sense linguistically, I guess they cant use it on south park...


    (that was sarcasm in case you didn't detect it, they do things that don't make sense all the time)
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    ahh South Park. u still got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich von Manstein View Post
    From the Times:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4704089.ece

    This is hardly the first case in which a group has called for the banning of South Park - the show tends to step on all toes equally and has made a lot of enemies (not least of which is the Scientology group). But taking a major step towards banning it because it "bears signs of extremist activity?" What? When I think of extremist activity, I think of Al-Qaeda, radical Islam, the KKK, Birth of a Nation, Russian ultranationalists, Triumph of the Will...that type of thing. But South Park, a show that has made a name for itself by mocking extremists of all stripes? Even under Russia's absurdly totalitarian definition of extremism ("abasement of national dignity" in addition to the standard "inciting religious or ethnic hatred"), I fail to see how South Park qualifies. The show has been running for close to 12 years in the United States and close to a decade in other Western countries, yet I have never heard of even a single isolated incidence of racial or religious violence being caused by viewers of the show as a result of their viewership. Yet the Russian prosecutors office seems to think that the cartoon "could provoke ethnic conflict and spark inter-religious hatred."

    Uh-huh.

    I'm not sure which implication from that statement portrays a more accurate picture of the sorry state of affairs in Russia today: the fact that the Russian prosecutors office seems to think that the Russian people are so inherently bigoted as to lash out in ethnic conflict (something that typically makes me think of Rwanda or Iraq under Saddam) because of something a widespread cartoon character says, or that civil liberties in Russia have been shredded to the point that adults can't even watch the cartoons anymore without official Russian approval.

    How sad.
    this subject is already beaten to death (week old news). the 2x2 will appeal till everyone sees red. the cartoon is still being showed.

    and screw Russian evangelical fanatics.

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    Satire is not extremism...

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    Hehe, go Russia!
    Personally I find SP, quite interesting ( sometimes ), but it is not for broadcasting on national TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milos98 View Post
    Hehe, go Russia!
    Personally I find SP, quite interesting ( sometimes ), but it is not for broadcasting on national TV.
    Care to explain why it isn't for national tv?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDreamer View Post
    Care to explain why it isn't for national tv?
    Yes, because of bad language, vulgaric expressions etc...
    It would be good, but on some not important channel, and in late hours.
    Since SP appeared, I see more and more children trying to be Cartman, or some other SP figure, they use every single word used by him ( Nazi thing, etc ), its quite disturbing, especially when you hear it from an eight year old.
    It is a cartoon, but for mature people only.
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    In Russia, South Park bans you!

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    It shows a number of regular and guest characters including Satan, Adolf Hitler and an anthropomorphised human faeces called Mr Hankey performing in a Christmas variety show.

    If only we had this to go on as for what exactly South Park is about...
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