Help with tranfsfering units

[eskrogh]

hi i seek some help about transfering other units to, other factions...

i can give the units to other factions, and play the game, no error there, but they are skinless, and i need some help, i dont understand the turtural for it so i barely know where to start

i play stainless steel, if it helps, and would like to trasfer the the koj and guild units to alot of factions...

[Azim]

All you can do via text editing is to change the faction(s) which can use a unit. If you want to change the appearance of the unit skin and unit card so that they match the new faction's color scheme, you will have to manually reskin them with a image editing program, probably Photoshop or the GIMP. Beyond that, I can't tell you how to go about reskinning units. Try the Skins, Models, and Animations forum. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=274

[eskrogh]

Azim i triyed, no answers..

[Eothese]

You will need to make changes to the battle_modelesdb. This will be much easier to do if you download and use the formated version. Here is an example unit, unmodified.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

22 dismounted_italian_maa
1
3
67 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_lod0.mesh 121
67 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_lod1.mesh 1225
67 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_lod2.mesh 6400
4
5 milan
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_milan.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/milan_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr
6 venice
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_venice.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/venice_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_papal_states.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
59 unit_sprites/papal_states_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr
6 sicily
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_sicily.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/sicily_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr
4
5 milan
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture
0
6 venice
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture
0
12 papal_states
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture
0
6 sicily
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_norm.texture
0
1
4 None
19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman
0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
26 dismounted_italian_maa_ug1
1
3
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
4
5 milan
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_milan.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
56 unit_sprites/milan_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr
6 venice
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_venice.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/venice_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_papal_states.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
63 unit_sprites/papal_states_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr
6 sicily
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_sicily.texture
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/sicily_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr
4
5 milan
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture
0
6 venice
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture
0
12 papal_states
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture
0
6 sicily
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_norm.texture
0
1
4 None
19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman
0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
26 dismounted_italian_maa_ug2
1
4
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod0.mesh 121
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod1.mesh 900
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod2.mesh 2500
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod3.mesh 6400
4
5 milan
79 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_milan.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
56 unit_sprites/milan_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
6 venice
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_venice.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/venice_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
86 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_papal_states.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
63 unit_sprites/papal_states_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
6 sicily
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_sicily.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/sicily_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
4
5 milan
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture
0
6 venice
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture
0
12 papal_states
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture
0
6 sicily
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_norm.texture
0
1
4 None
19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman
0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

As you can see, there is a lot of information, but its actually three lots of info, 1 for the basic model (22 dismounted_italian_maa )and 2 more for the armour upgrades (26 dismounted_italian_maa_ug1 and 26 dismounted_italian_maa_ug2). Note at this point its important to understand that the number at the begining of the line states how many characters the following label is, ie. dismounted_italian_maa_ug1 contains 26 characters. The number of spaces also is very important when dealing with this file. If your unsure backup first, in fact backup first anyway it always pays to be cautious.

Here is the 2nd armour upgrade with ownership added for Hungary and Slave (for if they go rebel.) You will need to make changes to all the different armour types if you want it to work correctly.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

26 dismounted_italian_maa_ug2
1
4
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod0.mesh 121
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod1.mesh 900
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod2.mesh 2500
74 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/dismounted_italian_maa_ug2_lod3.mesh 6400
6
5 milan
79 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_milan.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
56 unit_sprites/milan_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
6 venice
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_venice.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/venice_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
86 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_papal_states.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
63 unit_sprites/papal_states_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
6 sicily
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_sicily.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/sicily_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
7 hungary
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_hungary.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/sicily_Dismounted_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
5 slave
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_rebels.texture
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture
45 unit_sprites/slave_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr
6
5 milan
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture
0
6 venice
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture
0
12 papal_states
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture
0
6 sicily
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_sicily_norm.texture
0
7 hungary
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_hungary_diff.texture
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_hungary_norm.texture
0
5 slave
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_norm.texture
0
1
4 None
19 MTW2_Slow_Swordsman
0
2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

You can see from the text that the textures are already in existence in the folder the path indicates. However the sprite is not there, so I simply used one that I know for sure exists, from Sicily.

The blue number will also need changing as it represents the number of factions to follow.

If you manage to get all this working you will still need to copy a few TGA files to your chosen factions to give the new owners the unit portrait and info card.
Good luck!

@Edit
I did some poking around and found this formated battle_moddelsdb, it contains all the Vanilla units and a lot of the Kingdoms factions aswell, ignore the title.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...3&d=1218228276

Chances are, if your using stainless steel the file will be formated already...