Everything About Kosovo and Serbia, Mk 3

[LoZz]

Ok i do not want to see.

1. Childish name-calling and clams of nationalism, genocide and other war crimes.
2. Posts that simply question the credibility of the user who made it.
3. the use of nationality as an insult or implications that certain nations are prone to war crimes.

Any such posts will be treated as off topic and will be deleted.

mk 1: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=147199
mk 2: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154720

enjoy!

[Erebus Pasha]

I'll answer later on today. I've just got back from my night shift and I need some sleep.

[Nikron]

It would be better if u close this one too Lozz. There is nothing that we can discuss. Kosovo is not Serbia, is free. Albanians were there 25.000 years before the serbs came to balkan. Is the same case with the thief that want back his stolen thing becouse he held it for 86 years. Point closed. Bye bye.

[Oklop]

Nikron, you are joking right? I think I saw the 25000 years mentioned in another post but I supposed it is a typing mistake.

I mean 25000 like twenty five thousand years? Where did you get this number?

[Nikron]

Nikron, you are joking right? I think I saw the 25000 years mentioned in another post but I supposed it is a typing mistake.

I mean 25000 like twenty five thousand years? Where did you get this number?

Sorry mate, my mistake. We are here since 23,900 years ago, becouse our gene is mostly E3b and a little I2b, which are both illyrian genes ( the same race, dinarics ). Many slavs today are markers of I2b gene too becouse they intermingled with existing illyrian population.

[Deep_Red]

Albanians were there 25.000 years before the serbs came to balkan.

Good one, Nikron! XD
No, seriously: Where did you get this number?
Kosovo has been conquered from "Serbia" by the Ottomans. The only reason Albanians now live in Kosovo is the fact they´re mainly Muslim and so have been heavily supported by the Ottomans.
The Serbs claim lands that once belonged to them, Albanians claim lands they were sent to.

[attilavolciak07]

Good one, Nikron! XD
No, seriously: Where did you get this number?
Kosovo has been conquered from "Serbia" by the Ottomans. The only reason Albanians now live in Kosovo is the fact they´re mainly Muslim and so have been heavily supported by the Ottomans.
The Serbs claim lands that once belonged to them, Albanians claim lands they were sent to.

The traces of Illyrian tribes all around the current territories of Albania, Kosovo, a little bit of Greece, Montenegro and the generally accepted fact that Illyrians were the the ancestors of the Albanians makes me support the Albanian cause.

I stayed out of the previous two debates (too much nationalism) but I think I'll take a shot.

[Nikron]

Besides what u said, i will say that Earth is a like a sphere, now im in the bottom, some years later i can be on the top. So, dont be so sure that u will be able to invade it again and to find it unprepared. In 2008 Albania was the 2nd in the world about the development since 1991. In 2020, who knows.

[Oklop]

Dude, 25000 years? I mean come on. What, we count the number of "correct" blood cells? I mean the humanity was still in its "cave" phase.

[Nikron]

Dude, 25000 years? I mean come on. What, we count the number of "correct" blood cells? I mean the humanity was still in its "cave" phase.

Yeah i know that we were in cave phase. Im not saying that our old ancestors had huge cities and developed civilisation in that period, but thats the only way to convince these serbs that we are here before them.

[Hunnis]

To yuri.... the hordes of serbs are not asholes i like them more what i like albaniansand some of the bosnians, and most serbs do not say that they are serbs becuse they are afriad of getting beaten upp. When i want in school 4 grade i saw i serb getting beaten upp by albanians and bosnians and what did the serb do to deserv this? nothing they all just knowthat he was serb.

I live in the outskirts of Gothenburg, Apart of Angered named Lövgärdet, and it is the home of the Albanian leauge and i can say i have only meettwo normlay albanians in my life and i have meet many, they think they are something and playing cool whit there criminlaty and then the want that evreybody should feel sorry for them becuse of the *evil* serbs who have hurt them, i understand mutch albians have been trow mutch mut when they come here and being total asholes and countie there war here aginast the serbs, thats just feel worng, and if the want to counite the war why don't they stay in Kosovo? same whit the christian bosnians most of them are lunatics, if you are friend whit on of there sister, then her borthers start to threaten you.

So months ago some albanian girls where robbing pepole in central Gothenburg, i when to police took them, they where only saying, *we are the albanian
leauge you, we will kill you*

After Kosovos independence i askt a Kosovo girl on the internet (she hade writed serbia, albanians rule and something whit Kosovo) if she and her family will move back home, and she sayd no, i askt becuse? she sayd there is nothing there it is poor and i will have nothing to do there and so also sayd they will try to take there lovde ones to Sweden.

so i think i 50 years Kosov wil be Serbian agians becuse all the albanian will move westwards.

[Baron Vlad Felix]

To yuri.... the hordes of serbs are not asholes i like them more what i like albaniansand some of the bosnians, and most serbs do not say that they are serbs becuse they are afriad of getting beaten upp. When i want in school 4 grade i saw i serb getting beaten upp by albanians and bosnians and what did the serb do to deserv this? nothing they all just knowthat he was serb.

I live in the outskirts of Gothenburg, Apart of Angered named Lövgärdet, and it is the home of the Albanian leauge and i can say i have only meettwo normlay albanians in my life and i have meet many, they think they are something and playing cool whit there criminlaty and then the want that evreybody should feel sorry for them becuse of the *evil* serbs who have hurt them, i understand mutch albians have been trow mutch mut when they come here and being total asholes and countie there war here aginast the serbs, thats just feel worng, and if the want to counite the war why don't they stay in Kosovo? same whit the christian bosnians most of them are lunatics, if you are friend whit on of there sister, then her borthers start to threaten you.

So months ago some albanian girls where robbing pepole in central Gothenburg, i when to police took them, they where only saying, *we are the albanian
leauge you, we will kill you*

After Kosovos independence i askt a Kosovo girl on the internet (she hade writed serbia, albanians rule and something whit Kosovo) if she and her family will move back home, and she sayd no, i askt becuse? she sayd there is nothing there it is poor and i will have nothing to do there and so also sayd they will try to take there lovde ones to Sweden.

so i think i 50 years Kosov wil be Serbian agians becuse all the albanian will move westwards.

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[Oklop]

Nikron, not "you" but WE humans were in a cave phase. If you are inhabiting the Balkans for 24-25000 years that means that culturally distinct ethnicity arrived/migrated/spawned from the hills... before anyone else in the world and maintained that distinction for 24+ millenniums?

[Nikron]

No, the first migrations in Europe started 50.000 years ago. For now, is said that we came here around 24.000 years ago. Maybe we came earlier, who cares, important is that we came before serbs, who started the invasion of illyria in 7th cetury AD and claim that Kosovo is theirs becouse they invaded it in 13th century and held it for a very short time, and that they were waiting for 5 centuries till 20th to re-conquer it.

[Grobar]

No, the first migrations in Europe started 50.000 years ago. For now, is said that we came here around 24.000 years ago. Maybe we came earlier, who cares, important is that we came before serbs, who started the invasion of illyria in 7th cetury AD and claim that Kosovo is theirs becouse they invaded it in 13th century and held it for a very short time, and that they were waiting for 5 centuries till 20th to re-conquer it.

Kosovo was ours since we settled it in 7th century. It was scarcely populated back then and not part of any albanian state. We retook Kosovo in 20th century from Turks not from Albanians, it was not yours to begin with.

[Ali G]

Albanians have been in Kosovo for 68.000 years and had their state and democratic institutions, Serbs only came to Kosovo in last few decades.and there is no shred of evidence pointing to the Serbs ever living in Kosovo. nothing, zilch!!!
but some people are denying it, they can't face the true facts and evidence.

[Adrian]

Albanians have been in Kosovo for 68.000 years and had their state and democratic institutions, Serbs only came to Kosovo in last few decades.and there is no shred of evidence pointing to the Serbs ever living in Kosovo. nothing, zilch!!!
but some people are denying it, they can't face the true facts and evidence.

I wanted to stay away from this debate really I wanted to but like this is just inexcusable you know who was here first the greeks and the thracians you people are just a product of the ottoman empire.

I cant take it anymore you albanians lie and lie when ever I watch the ksovo thread I feel like puking at what you people spit out.


So remember you where not here first the thracians and the greeks where first here.

You claim history that is not yours.

[Baron Vlad Felix]

I wanted to stay away from this debate really I wanted to but like this is just inexcusable you know who was here first the greeks and the thracians you people are just a product of the ottoman empire.

I cant take it anymore you albanians lie and lie when ever I watch the ksovo thread I feel like puking at what you people spit out.


So remember you where not here first the thracians and the greeks where first here.

You claim history that is not yours.

correctly!

[attilavolciak07]

So remember you where not here first the thracians and the greeks where first here.

Errrm...no.

[Nikron]

I wanted to stay away from this debate really I wanted to but like this is just inexcusable you know who was here first the greeks and the thracians you people are just a product of the ottoman empire.

I cant take it anymore you albanians lie and lie when ever I watch the ksovo thread I feel like puking at what you people spit out.


So remember you where not here first the thracians and the greeks where first here.

You claim history that is not yours.

He is not albanian, but bosnian. This mean that is not an albanian lie. Check the profiles of the people that u refer with his nationality. Ok? We never said we were here since 68.000 years ago. We say 24.000.

why yes they ing are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Balkans

And I dont have anything against albanians but the ones on this forum go over the ing limit of decency with their claims.


And the truth is it doesn't ing matter who was here first this issue could be solved by the EU absorbing this hole region that would stop dreams of greater albania and will insure safety for all citizens albanians and serbs but right now thats not an option so we have to put up with this .


But the EU has stooped expanding for now lets hope that with time they will have the money and diplomatic strength to absorb these regions and put a ing end to this conflict.

Noone here has anything against albanians, they just hate us. Is easy to understand. Dont u think so? Well, u said that we lie, then tell me which are our lies.
And what about the thrakians and greeks being the 1st in balkan. Does this mean that Panonia, Illyria, Epirus, Aetolia, Akarnania, Macedonia, Dacia, Dardania and Paionia were empty? U have to know that illyrians, thrakians, dacians, panonnians, aetolians, akarnanians, macedonians and epirotes were the same race. Greeks appeared thousand of years later.

why yes they ing are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Balkans

And I dont have anything against albanians but the ones on this forum go over the ing limit of decency with their claims.


And the truth is it doesn't ing matter who was here first this issue could be solved by the EU absorbing this hole region that would stop dreams of greater albania and will insure safety for all citizens albanians and serbs but right now thats not an option so we have to put up with this .


But the EU has stooped expanding for now lets hope that with time they will have the money and diplomatic strength to absorb these regions and put a ing end to this conflict.

Noone here has anything against albanians, they just hate us. Is easy to understand. Dont u think so? Well, u said that we lie, then tell me which are our lies.
And what about the thrakians and greeks being the 1st in balkan. Does this mean that Panonia, Illyria, Epirus, Aetolia, Akarnania, Macedonia, Dacia, Dardania and Paionia were empty? U have to know that illyrians, thrakians, dacians, panonnians, aetolians, akarnanians, macedonians and epirotes were the same race. Greeks appeared thousand of years later.