US reaction to Russia: Support Sarkozy

[Farnan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/wa...ld&oref=slogin

So the official US policy on dealing with Russia is to support the European Union efforts. A smart move if I say so myself.

[Applesmack]

What a surprise It was obvious from the start that America wouldn't do anything other than shed tears an cry. Georgia will NEVER et South Ossetia and Abkhazia back. Its a false hope.

[Carach]

What a surprise It was obvious from the start that America wouldn't do anything other than shed tears an cry. Georgia will NEVER et South Ossetia and Abkhazia back. Its a false hope.

Ur posts, and the logic employed in them, continue to astonish me. Could u actually mention something related to the topic though?

my contribution: its a good choice i think, give EU a chance to shine (or... make it look bad if things go as american 'hawks' predict).. and get on a higher moral/political ground if/when russia pull some more .

[Applesmack]

Ur posts, and the logic employed in them, continue to astonish me. Could u actually mention something related to the topic though?

It's related to the topic It was always quite obvious US wouldn't do anything, such as sancions or military action. They would just cry and point the finger at Russia. Only pro-US fanatics who think America can do whatever it wants denied it. The Georgians actually thinking that the west can do anything and hoping for another chance to opress their seperatist regions is a complete false hope and would never happen as long as Russia isn't a nucleur wasteland.

[Carach]

It's related to the topic It was always quite obvious US wouldn't do anything, such as sancions or military action. They would just cry and point the finger at Russia. Only pro-US fanatics who think America can do whatever it wants denied it. The Georgians actually thinking that the west can do anything and hoping for another chance to opress their seperatist regions is a complete false hope and would never happen as long as Russia isn't a nucleur wasteland.

quite ironic that someone called 'total fanatic', taking the stance that u do on the russia/georgia conflict, is calling much of planet earth (nobody's supported Russia, everyones remained either neutral or against Russia) pro-US fanatics.

[Applesmack]

quite ironic that someone called 'total fanatic', taking the stance that u do on the russia/georgia conflict, is calling much of planet earth (nobody's supported Russia, everyones remained either neutral or against Russia) pro-US fanatics.

There have been alot of people who have supported Russia..Such as Syria, venezuela and Nicaragua. But of course they don't exist right? Who cares how many countries are against RUssia, it won't change anything. Georgia would never receive the seperatist regions. Also, the US is hate much more among the general population of the world for their invasion of Iraq/Afghanistan. Perhaps some blind US puppets are fine with it, but even they are starting to show their opposition.

[Plautus]

quite ironic that someone called 'total fanatic', taking the stance that u do on the russia/georgia conflict, is calling much of planet earth (nobody's supported Russia, everyones remained either neutral or against Russia) pro-US fanatics.

just don't feel responsible for "troolish" posts...then you have much more fun here . If you do, and answer, you just do what the poster wanted. Im already skipping his posts in the other threads regarding this topic

There isn't a whole lot that we can do about Russia. Outside of economically sanctioning them, sanctioning a major economy isn't quite as simple as sanctioning say Iran. We need resources that Russia has and russia knows this threfore they can get away with like this. The only thing we can do is support a toothless bargain.

OH? Who is we?
I will say it again:

As EU, we are not dependable on, lets say russian gas.
They build a static Gas Line into europe and so can only export thereto. If Russia will no longer deliver we have to find another supplier. It will cost more but we have the money to afford it. We have other business to do. All Russia is doing is exporting this resources, they dont have much besides. If they want to export gas into another region (like china) they have to build another pipeline...this would bring them for years to the loosing side. Russias rethoric is a paper tiger for europe. Or atleast for the big players of us.

Please dont double post, use the edit post button instead-Valus

[Farnan]

It's related to the topic It was always quite obvious US wouldn't do anything, such as sancions or military action. They would just cry and point the finger at Russia. Only pro-US fanatics who think America can do whatever it wants denied it. The Georgians actually thinking that the west can do anything and hoping for another chance to opress their seperatist regions is a complete false hope and would never happen as long as Russia isn't a nucleur wasteland.

See the US does something that is called diplomacy. It may be foreign to Russia, so I'll explain it.

Democracy is the act of working with other nations and solving disputes by talking to them instead of pointing nuclear weapons at them or throwing temper tantrums.

[Каие]

See the US does something that is called diplomacy. It may be foreign to Russia, so I'll explain it.

Democracy is the act of working with other nations and solving disputes by talking to them instead of pointing nuclear weapons at them or throwing temper tantrums.

Do you think the fact that Obama is more popular in Europe change the EU/US relations.

[Applesmack]

See the US does something that is called diplomacy. It may be foreign to Russia, so I'll explain it.

Democracy is the act of working with other nations and solving disputes by talking to them instead of pointing nuclear weapons at them or throwing temper tantrums.

ROFL LMAO! You mean like the invasion of Iraq in which they lied about weapons of mass destruction? Or are we talking about the threats to wipe Iran off the map? North korea has been threatened a good amount of times as well. Or perhaps you wishto refer to the NATO bombing of Belgrad, Kosovo and invasion of Serbia during 1999?

[Каие]

The US and EU side by side, that's a step forward...a taster of Obama style foreign policy.

[Panzerbear]

OK all BS aside, this is probably the smartest thing US administration has done in the entire Georgia/South Ossetia affair.

now it seems like all the sides have cooled down and diplomacy took its natural course.

[Andrew87]

I thought I'd never see this.

The US and a french president agree on something?

If I travel back in time 10 years and tell the world about this everybody would laugh saying it's impossible.

Seriously, I think it's a smart move considering that the EU and the US share a common view on the matter, and that, for the past weeks, Russia steped up it's anti-american rethoric so an "agressive" US diplomatic involment would only delay any results.

On the other hand, like Carach said, let's hope the EU really shines...

[ivan_the_terrible]

I thought his father was a Hungarian Jew...

[JP226]

There isn't a whole lot that we can do about Russia. Outside of economically sanctioning them, sanctioning a major economy isn't quite as simple as sanctioning say Iran. We need resources that Russia has and russia knows this threfore they can get away with like this. The only thing we can do is support a toothless bargain.

[Taneda Santôka]

Russia is making power-moves to regain influence and glory ; at least they're not genociding like a couple of years ago or killing innocent civilians like some a certain superpower... No piece of toilet paper signed by any reunion of countries, including the US, will change the conflict and its outcome.
So in the perspective of the Russo-Georgian conflict, it's a useless move.
In the perspective of US/EU relations, on the other hand, it's a great move and progress.

[Carach]

Russia is making power-moves to regain influence and glory ; at least they're not genociding like a couple of years ago or killing innocent civilians like some a certain superpower...

sorry, but it sounds like ur implying the US do all this... would i be correct in assuming that?

[Taneda Santôka]

sorry, but it sounds like ur implying the US do all this... would i be correct in assuming that?

Commenting comments makes this off-topic and useless ; quite typical of your posting efforts.
Read what is written, think twice and have a nice day.