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    http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/07/news...ion=2008090711

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal officials on Sunday unveiled an extraordinary takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, putting the government in charge of the twin mortgage giants and the $5 trillion in home loans they back.

    The move marks Washington's most dramatic attempt yet to shore up the nation's housing market, which is suffering from record foreclosures and falling prices.

    The sweeping plan, announced by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and James Lockhart, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, places the two companies into a "conservatorship" to be overseen by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under conservatorship, the government would temporarily run Fannie and Freddie until they are on stronger footing.

    "A failure [of Fannie and Freddie] would affect the ability of Americans to get home loans, auto loans and other consumer credit and business finance," Paulson said at a press conference in Washington. "And a failure would be harmful to economic growth and job creation."

    Freddie (FRE, Fortune 500) and Fannie (FNM, Fortune 500), which were created by the U.S. government, have been badly hurt in the last year by the sharp decline in home prices and the rise in mortgage delinquencies and foreclosures, racking up about $12 billion in losses.

    On Sunday, officials stressed that both Fannie and Freddie will be open for business on Monday morning, although the firms will have undergone a dramatic facelift.

    Freddie CEO Richard Syron and Fannie CEO Daniel Mudd will no longer run the agencies, while the FHFA will assume control of the boards of both companies, regulators said.

    Syron and Mudd will be replaced by two finance veterans charged with restoring the mortgage titans to health. Herb Allison, the former president of money manager TIAA-CREF, will head Fannie Mae. Allison formerly served as vice chairman of Merrill Lynch.

    David Moffett, who served as vice chairman and chief financial officer of U.S. Bancorp until early 2007 and then joined the Carlyle Group private-equity firm as a senior advisor, will take over Freddie Mac.

    At the same time, dividends on both common and preferred shares will be eliminated in an effort to conserve about $2 billion annually. All of the firms' lobbying and political activities will be halted immediately and charitable activities reviewed.

    In addition, the Treasury Department announced a series of moves targeted at providing relief to both housing and financial markets.

    Paulson said Treasury would boost mortgages by purchasing mortgage-backed securities from Freddie and Fannie, as well as offering to lend money to the companies and the 12 Federal Home Loan Banks. The home loan banks advance funds to more than 8,000 member banks.

    The Treasury, with fellow regulator FHFA, will also buy preferred stock in Fannie and Freddie to provide security to the companies' debt holders and bolster housing finance.

    How we got here
    Sunday's decision culminates weeks of meetings and analysis by top federal regulators and management teams assessing the health of the companies.

    "We examined all options available, and determined that this comprehensive and complementary set of actions best meets our three objectives of market stability, mortgage availability and taxpayer protection," Paulson said.

    The two firms buy loans, attach a guarantee, then sell securities backed by the loans' income stream. All told, they own or back $5.4 trillion worth of home debt - half the mortgage debt in the country.

    At the same time, Fannie and Freddie have become virtually the only source of funding for banks and other home lenders looking to make home loans. Their ability to do so is crucial to the recovery of the battered home market and the broader U.S. economy.

    In mid-July, the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve announced steps in to make funds available to the firms if necessary and Congress approved the sweeping proposals later that month.

    Shares of both companies are down more than 80% so far this year.

    Unanswered questions
    The cost of the government intervention remains unclear. Experts argue that it will depend in large part on the structure of the rescue, the direction of home prices and mortgage default rates.

    Still it seems almost certain it will run into the billions and will most likely eclipse such other high-profile government bailouts including than the Federal Reserve's $29 billion backing of Bear Stearns assets when it was taken over by J.P. Morgan Chase.

    In his remarks, Paulson said that the cost to taxpayers would largely depend on how Freddie and Fannie perform.

    Another unintended yet unavoidable consequence may be the impact to the nation's banks.

    Some of the nation's largest financial institutions including JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) and Sovereign Bancorp (SOV, Fortune 500) own a big chunk of the estimated $36 billion in preferred shares of Fannie and Freddie, which are at risk of being wiped out should Fannie and Freddie do end up getting a cash infusion from the Treasury Department
    We should stop fantasizing about our politicians and their treacheries for a while and speak of something else also quite historic.

    What caused it all to coalesce like this? Which presidency? What laws culminated in what a few learned people call "The Second Gilded Age"?
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    finally.

    They should've just nationalized them.

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    hopefully, this will work. they nationalised northern rock in the uk (same story but for the uk) and it stopped the bank from going under. but still its alot of tax payers money which we might not get back.

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    but still its alot of tax payers money which we might not get back.
    Oh hey look, the military has 10 more tanks than usual.

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    The CEOs have 3 more yachts than usual...
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    So, this is liberal capitalism? When those companies were making profit only few rich were earning billions, when they are bankrupt common tax payers will kept them alive??!!
    Only just solution is to seize property of those share holders who got rich and only rest should be patch by money of ordinary citizens

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    Communism - for when capitalism failed miserably.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Communism - for when capitalism failed miserably.
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    lol, it seems Marx to the rescue! Seriously when capitalism fails, Communism is there. Burned...

    If it had been truly capitalist to begin with this whole crisis may have never happened.

    There's no way these massive companies go out on a limb like they did if they weren't sure they would be bailed out.
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    FOr those who simply want to chant "It is Bush's fault" ---

    Congress made the rules to get more people into homeownership with no money down deals and variable interest rates. Nothing wrong with this on entry level modest homes. But the rules also allowed $250,000 and even higher loan amounts to be leveraged in this manner. A program that was meant for lower middle class income first time buyers became perverted. Ultimate responsibility lies with the people in charge of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Should the Bush administration tightened rules? Yes. Should Congress have tightened oversight. Yes. Should certain past management and directors be indicted? Yes - and they probably will.

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    Profits are capitalized, losses are socialized, what a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    Profits are capitalized, losses are socialized, what a deal.
    True especially when the fall of something is too vital to allow it to happen. The fact it was accepted that the US goverment would *always* protect Fanny and Freddie no doubt played a part in this too. Safety nets need to be limited to bottom end of social welfare not corporate world but that is neither here nor there since clearly Fanny and Freddie need to be protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    ......since clearly Fanny and Freddie need to be protected.
    Yeah, they are simply huge, with 50% of mortgage debt. And that debt is bundled and sold internationally. Imagine that ripple into the EU economy and elsewhere if they were allowed to fail.

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    Well this is unamerican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    Well this is unamerican.
    unamerican? this is outright communist. oh the great irony...

    Throw away all your newspapers!
    Most of you are Libertarians, you just havent figured it out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senno View Post
    Yeah, they are simply huge, with 50% of mortgage debt. And that debt is bundled and sold internationally. Imagine that ripple into the EU economy and elsewhere if they were allowed to fail.
    I don't think the debts sold to European banks are saved by this move, only the debts still held by Freddy/Fanny.

    The bundling and selling of debts was a brilliant move, from an American pov.



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    I don't think the debts sold to European banks are saved by this move, only the debts still held by Freddy/Fanny.


    The bundling and selling of debts was a brilliant move, from an American pov.
    If the intent to screw you was the goal, then yeah... Otherwise, when you would be holding worthless debt in your hand, absent this bailout, I think not.

    lol, it seems Marx to the rescue! Seriously when capitalism fails, Communism is there. Burned...
    Whomever argued (besides Ron Paul, lol) that government does not have legitimate reasons for existence? Saving the homes of 50% of the nation would be such a case, if anything. Otherwise, the legal battle over title (whom do the homeowners pay their loans to, for ex) and other issues would be virtually endless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    Profits are capitalized, losses are socialized, what a deal.
    Actually the mantra goes like this: "profits are privatized, losses are socialized."

    There's another mantra that I like too, "private vices yield to the greatest public benefit", which characterizes the current condition of our society pretty well.

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    lol, it seems Marx to the rescue! Seriously when capitalism fails, Communism is there. Burned...

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    Why do we think Communism is so popular in places like Central America?

    Capitalism at its worst. The natural alternative is Communism, which looks downright noble and righteous and altruistic and then it takes a while before they figure out it doesn't work.
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    To be fair Communism in this case is a little over generalisation and just because it works to save the banks, it doesn't mean communism would work in running them.

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