giving the "others" princesses

[luciferleigh]

not really sure if this go into the general modding section or here, but since i only play ss, though id have a go at it here

ive read somewhere that there was a mod that enabled muslim factions to have princesses (controlable) dont remember exactly where the thread is anymore

anyway, ive tried to just add the allow princess settings for them, but they just get a regular pink diplomat instead, i personally want this because i like mixing my family tree with others of noble origin (marrying them into the family) and i usually end up using them to kill off their original faction (ie: having a selvo take over venice )

on another note, maybe someone could just help me give muslim princesses the "stuck trait" so i dont really need campaign map figures, but id really like for them to be able to be usable

thx for the time and the excellent mod and sub mods, and if anyone didnt understand just say so xD

[The Cobra]

I don't think that there will be any princesses in any further SS versions (it's sort of non historic), i'm going to see how to add them, Maybe make a sub-mod.

[ConquerAll]

Zeph's Eastern Princesses mod might be the mod you are thinking of. But if I recall correctly it only works for his mod, CAE, so it doesn't really help you here.

Maybe a trait like this would work (add to export_descr_character_traits.txt)?

(N.B. I haven't tested it):

;------------------------------------------
Trait IAmMuslimPrincess
    Characters family

    Level Muslim_Princess
        Description Muslim_Princess_desc
        EffectsDescription Muslim_Princess_effects_desc
        Threshold 1

        Effect MovementPoints -120

Then for the trigger...

;------------------------------------------
Trigger princess_muslim
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition AgentType = princess
              and CultureType middle_eastern

    Affects IAmMuslimPrincess  1  Chance  100

And finally, you'd have to create the respective texts for the trait level and description in text/export_vnvs.txt. Or I suppose you could make the trait hidden.

{Muslim_Princess}    Muslim Princess
{Muslim_Princess_desc}    A Muslim princess
{Muslim_Princess_effects_desc}    Waits in settlement to be married off by her family

Let me know if it works!

[aduellist]

Zeph's Eastern Princesses mod might be the mod you are thinking of. But if I recall correctly it only works for his mod, CAE, so it doesn't really help you here.

Maybe a trait like this would work (add to export_descr_character_traits.txt)?

(N.B. I haven't tested it):

;------------------------------------------
Trait IAmMuslimPrincess
    Characters family

    Level Muslim_Princess
        Description Muslim_Princess_desc
        EffectsDescription Muslim_Princess_effects_desc
        Threshold 1

        Effect MovementPoints -120

Then for the trigger...

;------------------------------------------
Trigger princess_muslim
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition AgentType = princess
              and CultureType middle_eastern

    Affects IAmMuslimPrincess  1  Chance  100

And finally, you'd have to create the respective texts for the trait level and description in text/export_vnvs.txt. Or I suppose you could make the trait hidden.

{Muslim_Princess}    Muslim Princess
{Muslim_Princess_desc}    A Muslim princess
{Muslim_Princess_effects_desc}    Waits in settlement to be married off by her family

Let me know if it works!

You'll also have to edit descr_sm_factions.txt to make sure the faction you're working on has the following line:

can_have_princess			yes

[ConquerAll]

You'll also have to edit descr_sm_factions.txt

Ah yes, thanks for pointing that out, aduellist!

I'd thought the OP had already done that but it can't hurt to make sure.

[The Cobra]

Damn it , i hate it that i don't have SS installed.

[Hesus de bodemloze]

not really sure if this go into the general modding section or here, but since i only play ss, though id have a go at it here

ive read somewhere that there was a mod that enabled muslim factions to have princesses (controlable) dont remember exactly where the thread is anymore

anyway, ive tried to just add the allow princess settings for them, but they just get a regular pink diplomat instead, i personally want this because i like mixing my family tree with others of noble origin (marrying them into the family) and i usually end up using them to kill off their original faction (ie: having a selvo take over venice )

on another note, maybe someone could just help me give muslim princesses the "stuck trait" so i dont really need campaign map figures, but id really like for them to be able to be usable

thx for the time and the excellent mod and sub mods, and if anyone didnt understand just say so xD

hehehe yeah i agree on this it would be nice if it is possible to do so.

[luciferleigh]

got 2 different results, first i got a generic ctd, and secondly the princess could still move...

does it matter where in the file i put the traits in?
and do i have to start a new campaign? (i do it anyway, edited the turks so that their princess becomes 14 at the 2nd turn)

thx for the replies so far

[aduellist]

does it matter where in the file i put the traits in?
and do i have to start a new campaign? (i do it anyway, edited the turks so that their princess becomes 14 at the 2nd turn)

Shouldn't matter as long as the trait info is above the start of triggers and trigger info is below. Yes, you need to start a new campaign to pick up the changes.

If you want them to be usable on the strat map, you'll have to add an appropriate entry to descr_character.txt, along with an appropriate model. I'm not adept at doing that, so I'm afraid you'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to tell you how. Sorry.

Edit: Just checked the descr_charater.txt and there are already entries in there for the Muslim factions.:hmmm:

[luciferleigh]

yeah, the 1st ctd was probably because i put both the trait and trigger at the end, now i got em in the right places, although the princess (pink diplo) can still move :/

edit: tried to give her the IAmMuslimPrincess trait via the console, and it did limit her mp

[aduellist]

That definitely indicates the trigger isn't firing. Is there anything in your log file?

[luciferleigh]

nope, been digging around though and found a mod that added princess models for the muslim factions, works atm but no voices for em, didnt understand the explanation that well

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81589

[aduellist]

Try backing up and deleting Voice.dat and Voice.idx in data\sounds. Only thing I can think of to fix voices..

[luciferleigh]

yeah, that didnt work, but i guess that will have to do for now xD

+ rep for the help

[frederickm]

Muslim's should have no princesses as by their faith a woman cannot marry a non Muslim man, and Muslim men can only marry devout Jews/Christians and their children raised Muslim if they choose to marry a non Muslim woman.
Also it'd take a lot princesses to kill off a Muslim faction for they can have 4 wives.

[luciferleigh]

Muslim's should have no princesses as by their faith a woman cannot marry a non Muslim man, and Muslim men can only marry devout Jews/Christians and their children raised Muslim if they choose to marry a non Muslim woman.
Also it'd take a lot princesses to kill off a Muslim faction for they can have 4 wives.

thats why i wanted them to be stuck

[Texassassin]

Princess marriages are historically accurate. HRE married into England.

[Lord de Lyonesse]

Princess marriages are historically accurate. HRE married into England.

The monarchies of europe all married into eachother to secure themselves against a common foe but also to act as peace treaties and deterrants.