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    Scandals, etc. surrounding Barack Obama:

    --Attended a racist, hate-America church for 20 years

    --Was endorsed by a high-ranking Hamas official

    --Has made attempts to use federal courts to stifle criticism of his past

    --Has a long friendship with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers

    --Is the most liberal member of the United States Senate

    --Voted "Present" 130 times in the Illinois State Senate

    --Has associations to radical pro-Palestinians

    --Bought a house through a crooked deal with Tony Rezko

    --Has changed his position on many issues multiple times

    --Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem

    --Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin

    --And more...
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    I have one very deep concern about Obama becoming president.

    What happens if -- God forbid -- something happens to Joe Biden, and suddenly Obama has to run things?

    This troubles me greatly.



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    Oh my god this is childish.

    And I will argue that Reverend Wright is a patriot who loves the idea of America, and not what America has done to his people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    Oh my god this is childish.

    And I will argue that Reverend Wright is a patriot who loves the idea of America, and not what America has done to his people.
    yeah Reverend Wright claims that the FBI infected the black community with AIDS in order to do some good ole fashioned ethnic cleansing. Maybe the FBI is responsible for Africa's AIDS problem too? oh wait no, Wright is an f-ing lunatic and Obama went to hear him speak every Sunday


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Scandals, etc. surrounding Barack Obama:

    --Attended a racist, hate-America church for 20 years

    --Was endorsed by a high-ranking Hamas official

    --Has made attempts to use federal courts to stifle criticism of his past

    --Has a long friendship with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers

    --Is the most liberal member of the United States Senate

    --Voted "Present" 130 times in the Illinois State Senate

    --Has associations to radical pro-Palestinians

    --Bought a house through a crooked deal with Tony Rezko

    --Has changed his position on many issues multiple times

    --Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem

    --Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin

    --And more...
    Take your debunked Fox News talking points elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    Take your debunked Fox News talking points elsewhere.
    would + rep if i could

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    Has a long friendship with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers
    I'm still waiting to see this one 'debunked.' Apparently, Obama is asked about it by O'Reilly on next week's segment. Should be very interesting.

    In the first segment, he admitted the Surge worked, but refused to admit he had been wrong. He also said that 'no one' had anticipated it would work. Uh... then why did we do it? Because we knew it would fail? I seem to recall McCain pushing for it for years, because he thought it would work.

    Obama has been badly rattled by Palin's speech. Seeing him give an impromptu press conference where he started to defend his resume vs. hers just astonished me -- he needs to shut up and stop talking about her. His defensiveness reeks of insecurity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryfunk View Post
    I'm still waiting to see this one 'debunked.' Apparently, Obama is asked about it by O'Reilly on next week's segment. Should be very interesting.

    In the first segment, he admitted the Surge worked, but refused to admit he had been wrong. He also said that 'no one' had anticipated it would work. Uh... then why did we do it? Because we knew it would fail? I seem to recall McCain pushing for it for years, because he thought it would work.

    Obama has been badly rattled by Palin's speech. Seeing him give an impromptu press conference where he started to defend his resume vs. hers just astonished me -- he needs to shut up and stop talking about her. His defensiveness reeks of insecurity.
    That last paragraph is kinda redundant and full of crap. Politicians react, to say they shouldn't.... kinda hypocritical and not realistic.

    If I were to defend Ayers, I would say that he is a teacher of social justice, naturally a friend of the blacks, and has a very colorful (no pun intended) history on the subject.

    Have you read his book? What do you know of him? Of his regrets? Of his deeds and misdeeds what do you know he thinks of them?

    Ayers isn't invited to all of progressive movements meetings, he's disinvited. He's a criminal.

    But criminals can have a point.
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    Too often talked of, but too little known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    That last paragraph is kinda redundant and full of crap. Politicians react, to say they shouldn't.... kinda hypocritical and not realistic.
    React at the time and place of your choosing -- not at a hurried press avail conducted by the side of the road in a lame attempt to justify your 'community organizer' credentials because a sexy librarian made you look the fool the night before.

    Joe Biden ripped John McCain up one side and down the other in his DNC speech. Did a panicked McCain call an impromptu press conference the next day to say 'Ooooh, that was unfair!' Of course not. McCain just sat back, calm and collected, and when the smoke had cleared from Obama's sermon on the Grecian mount, he pointed a MILF-howitzer at the Obama campaign and blew them off the front pages.

    McCain knows how to play this game. I'm starting to think that Obama doesn't.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    --Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem
    What bollocks, i can't believe the extent of rampant blind nationalism sometimes.

    --Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin
    No he didn't...
    Last edited by Каие; September 06, 2008 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Scandals, etc. surrounding Barack Obama:

    --Attended a racist, hate-America church for 20 years

    --Was endorsed by a high-ranking Hamas official

    --Has made attempts to use federal courts to stifle criticism of his past

    --Has a long friendship with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers

    --Is the most liberal member of the United States Senate

    --Voted "Present" 130 times in the Illinois State Senate

    --Has associations to radical pro-Palestinians

    --Bought a house through a crooked deal with Tony Rezko

    --Has changed his position on many issues multiple times

    --Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem

    --Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin

    --And more...
    Man has always sought to categorise things, and here's my humble contribution.

    Irrelevant:
    Attended a racist, hate-America church for 20 years
    Was endorsed by a high-ranking Hamas official
    Has associations to radical pro-Palestinians (I'm guessing pro-Palestinian, a sentimented far from expressed when Obama visited Jerusalem, is radical for you)
    Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem
    Has changed his position on many issues multiple times (what is relevant is his present position)

    Incorrect
    Attended a racist, hate-America church for 20 years (not wearing a flag pin is enough to be classified as an Anti-American these days)
    Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin

    The other SCANDALS I cannot comment on. How many votes where there in the Illinois State Senate during his mandate? What was the criticism he tried to use courts for to stifle? I don't know William Ayers.

    Edit: And this is opinion, of course. But if Obama's the most liberal member of the United States Senate, I wonder what US liberalism actually constitutes.
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    Ayers teaches at the same university! Of course there's contact between them. Obama must be fascinated by the movement for peace and freedom and social justice, despite how misguided it was carried out, to be able to talk to Ayers.
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    --Is the most liberal member of the United States Senate
    --Has in the past refused to wear a US flag pin or salute during the National Anthem
    --Has trashed his country during a speech in Berlin
    I am simply at loss of words.
    One has to recommend you for posting the most blatant conservative nationalist bull crap I've seen in a long while. The very same spirit of this post, is why I sometimes lose all faith in the American people. Then I remember the friendly and rational people I've met on the West Coast and relax a little. Why can't you let the rest of the world get a positive image of America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atterdag View Post
    One has to recommend you for posting the most blatant conservative nationalist bull crap I've seen in a long while.
    This seems to be constant with him and led me to label him a stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atterdag View Post
    I am simply at loss of words.
    One has to recommend you for posting the most blatant conservative nationalist bull crap I've seen in a long while. The very same spirit of this post, is why I sometimes lose all faith in the American people. Then I remember the friendly and rational people I've met on the West Coast and relax a little. Why can't you let the rest of the world get a positive image of America?
    Agreed... If only the Rational Americans would bother taking charge of that damn country for once and put all the nutjobs in place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atterdag View Post
    Why can't you let the rest of the world get a positive image of America?

    why cant you realize that a positive image is worthless if we are seen as a bunch of wusses who cant finish what we start? especially if the terrorists have that image and start bombing us because they know we wont retaliate?

    ill bet that even if the terrorists flew a leer jet into the eiffel tower and completly destroyed it, the french still wouldnt do . if that what america is destined to become, im ashamed to call myself one.

    being popular is never as important as standing up for yourself and what you believe in. i dont care what europe says, this isnt europe, its america. we rebelled from europe for a reason in the first place, and if i wanted to live in a european country id move there, i dont need america turning into one.
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    why cant you realize that a positive image is worthless if we are seen as a bunch of wusses who cant finish what we start? especially if the terrorists have that image and start bombing us because they know we wont retaliate?

    ill bet that even if the terrorists flew a leer jet into the eiffel tower and completly destroyed it, the french still wouldnt do . if that what america is destined to become, im ashamed to call myself one.

    being popular is never as important as standing up for yourself and what you believe in. i dont care what europe says, this isnt europe, its america. we rebelled from europe for a reason in the first place, and if i wanted to live in a european country id move there, i dont need america turning into one.

    Yeah, like spain... they get attacked and they withdraw from the war

    Um thats why they attacked you?

    the UK is the only country with some balls

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    im sorry ulster, i dont even watch any of those shows, so your logic is flawed from the start.

    my tv time consists of 4 things- cartoons, sitcoms, history channel, and the news. i never have watched o'reilly or any of those guys, cause id rather be watching family guy or reruns of friends. infact i hardy watch the news its so depressing. sometimes i read the newspaper as well, but thats not tv.

    I draw my opinions from 3 sources, internet news articles like on yahoo and AOL, history, and common sense.

    history has shown that the policy of appeasement fails miserably, perhaps youve never heard of WW2?

    same goes for terrorists as did for Hitler, if we take a soft approach, they will know they can get away with anything and run rampant. Its like letting your 2 year old child have whatever they want, soon they get out of control. same goes for russia as well on that matter, if we just let them have what they want, first its georgia, then ukraine, then the baltic states, then poland, and we got the warsaw pact all over again.

    as for Obama and the democrats, its not republican propoganda that the democratic party has been divided since JFK, its historical fact. and its certainly not republican propoganda that hilary secretly envies obama and in no way thinks he is good enough for the oval office compared to her, its common ing sense. with how ambitious hilary is, there no way shes not mad shes not the democratic ticket, especially since she had such a huge early lead and then was defeated in an upset by Obama. anyone with oval office ambitions would be mad at such a humiliating loss to someone who is so less qualified compared to them.

    and the democratic party itself is made up of people working towards many different interests, and its common ing sense that the only way someone can lead a united party is with pork barrel spending, due to the fact that sometimes those interests contradict. Obama may change things, but at the cost of so much wasted pork barrel spending on democrats that dont see eye-to-eye, either on principle or implementation of policies.

    he is basically using the system to change things, when the first thing that needs to be changed is the system itself.

    i cant put it any more plain than that last statement there, but then again i guess this post is dedicated at a bunch of thick-headed fools who will say up is down if Obama tells them too.

    JFK would turn over in his grave if he found out what liberalism has come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post

    --Was endorsed by a high-ranking Hamas official
    The KKK also supported him. Here is a man who has the ability to bring together two of the most radical positions in the political spectrum, and you're going to vote against that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus View Post
    The KKK also supported him. Here is a man who has the ability to bring together two of the most radical positions in the political spectrum, and you're going to vote against that ?
    The KKK never supported Obama.

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