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    My thought:

    Judaism was the first religion that believed and followed God. Christianism is based in the Judaism, so it too beliefs in the same God; and Islam also does, because Muhammad had a revelation by God, and saw the other prophets (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and other ones related with the two last ones)

    If these three religions believe in the same God, why don't they unite themselves in one; if the most important part of a religion is God?

    I leave it in your hands.

    PS: Sorry to say this too late, but I forgot to tell you one thing:

    Without a god any religion can exist; therefore God is the most important part of those three religions. What do you think: our God would be proud of us to see that His message has divided the people instead of making them happy and join them?

    Think on the Palestine-Israel conflict, in the Jihadists, at the xenophobia that some people has... Is that what God planned? God doesn't have all planned because he let us choose*; and we have choosen to make three different religions (and its consecuences and conflicts).

    *What did you think, that God had all planed? God doesn't because, if that were right, he would be our dictator and said what we shall do to make things better. He let us choose to make this world a paradise or a hell; and we choose every day what do we want. Sorry if I hadn't explained myself right...
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    My thought:

    3 religions - no God.
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    Because they differ widely in practice, many other beliefs besides deity, and especially in their view on the man known as Yeshua ben Yosef. Judaism views him as a crackpot, Christianity views him as a messianic salvator mundi, and Islam's in between, seeing him as a prophet but not divine.

    It takes more than a belief in a common deity to make a religion. There is far more that goes into it.

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    You could ask why the Catholics, Lutherans, Protestants, Anglicans, Uniteds, Prebyterians, Baptists, Born-Agains and all the other christian sects don't 'merge' together. It'd put forward a far more convincing show.

    But oh no, they all believe something different; albeit often only a small detail.
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    Well, it's important to note that the Islamic view of Christianity as described in the Quran sees it as a polytheistic view of God.. it separates the Trinity into a worshipping of three distinct entities. That's why Islam stresses so much the concept of God and only God; 'Far be it for God to have a Son'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Crusader View Post
    My thought:

    Judaism was the first religion that believed and followed God. Christianism is based in the Judaism, so it too beliefs in the same God; and Islam also does, because Muhammad had a revelation by God, and saw the other prophets (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and other ones related with the two last ones)

    If these three religions believe in the same God, why don't they unite themselves in one; if the most important part of a religion is God?

    I leave it in your hands.
    Excellent thought man.

    they r all 1 God. every religion that came after the other believed in the previous religions. Christianity believes in Judaism, and Islam believes in both 2. all three religions are talking about that same 1 God up in heavens. I find both Judaism and Islam are common in a looooot of things with small differences between each other. probably Christianity is the most alienated religion of all since they believe in the trinity and that God has begotten a son with a brand new set of laws.

    to unite all 3 religions..sure i think that's the purpose God made those three religions!

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    My thought:

    3 religions - no God.

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    They can never unite because they are just too different. As well as dogmatic differences, they are also shaped by their respective host cultures; Israeli, Roman, Arabic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
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    Ruire, he has a point. In a world of multiple religions, in which the origin of each and every one is equally obscure, which is the right one? In the words of Homer Simpson: "We could just be making God madder and madder!"
    Last edited by Farnan; September 06, 2008 at 12:27 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicus View Post
    In the words of Homer Simpson: "We could just be making God madder and madder!"
    yer lol

    but then the big man knows everything thats going to happen, so im sure he wasnt taken by surprise anyway he should have made it easier for us by lightning bolting george bush! would have converted half the world in one go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruire View Post
    My thought:



    They can never unite because they are just too different. As well as dogmatic differences, they are also shaped by their respective host cultures; Israeli, Roman, Arabic.
    He is constructive, because his comment reminds us of reality. Ever heard of it?

    But anyway, 3 religions united would be a disaster. United we stand, divided we fall. And falling is exactly what they (and we) need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PacSubCom View Post
    But anyway, 3 religions united would be a disaster. United we stand, divided we fall. And falling is exactly what they (and we) need.
    Why? Can you explain? Lots of todays philosophy, morals and laws are based on religion.
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    i think jesus was awesome b'cuz


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivra View Post
    i think jesus was awesome b'cuz

    hmmm... beacause he was good at final fantasy games?
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    Because there still are some large differences between them. Christians view Jesus as equal to God, a thorn in the eye of the Muslim and Jewish theories. Muslims view Muhammed as near-divine and that is a thorn in the eye of the other two. Jews recognise neither as holy and concentrate a lot on ethnic matters as well and a lot of more things.
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





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    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    The nature/personality of the Christian and the muslim God are so far apart that they cannot be one and the same.

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    Well historically they have appeared as rejection of other religion. Christianity rejected judaism and declared it is no more in communion with God since it didn't recognise the Saviour of the world. Islam also rejected all other to declare the prophet from the desert. Judaism from the roots of its beginning liked to differentiate from all others. So there's no reasonable base to unite them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Neither God has a ''personality'' but a nature, and that nature is in all Abrahamic religions the same.
    According to the christian dogmas,God has a personality ,otherwise it would stand lower than mankind and would be nothing. It is also exactly the communion with a specific personality that prevents the mechanical merge of concepts about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Crusader View Post
    My thought:

    Judaism was the first religion that believed and followed God. Christianism is based in the Judaism, so it too beliefs in the same God; and Islam also does, because Muhammad had a revelation by God, and saw the other prophets (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and other ones related with the two last ones)

    If these three religions believe in the same God, why don't they unite themselves in one; if the most important part of a religion is God?

    I leave it in your hands.

    To be honest we worship the same god, but we interpret the nature of god in different ways, and the we have different customs. I.e. Muslims pray different to Christians, and Muslims/Jews believe in a formless, incorporeal god, whereas Christians believe he is a part of some kind of Trinity.

    But there's absolutely no reason why we can't coexist and live together, for we almost fit together.

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    The nature/personality of the Christian and the muslim God are so far apart that they cannot be one and the same.
    Neither God has a ''personality'' but a nature, and that nature is in all Abrahamic religions the same. A pretty benevolent and wise God who isn't afraid to punish man when things get out of hand and start over but also wants to ''befriend'' them. Or something else, depending on how you interpret the texts. Religion is what you make of it. God can be a sadist bastard or a benevolent overlord depending on how you view the Holy Books.

    God is generally viewed as the same being, almost untouchable who intervenes whenever he wants it.

    Christian = jewish god, and Islamic God is based on both.

    YHWH = The Lord thy God = Allah.

    Why? Can you explain? Lots of todays philosophy, morals and laws are based on religion.
    Because the Atheists that form about 10% of the human population isn't going to grow fast, especially because alot of them are Commies who are returning to religion.
    Last edited by Dr. Croccer; September 06, 2008 at 04:42 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cņ am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu brąth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhģthein buaile fąs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sģos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an ąird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    In the bible, god says he will give the descendants of Ishmael a mighty civilisation and nation. It happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    In the bible, god says he will give the descendants of Ishmael a mighty civilisation and nation. It happened.
    It also says some other things about the Ishmaelites

    And it has happened.

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