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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/0...ies/index.html

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- When you see people at the office using such Internet sites as Facebook and MySpace, you might suspect those workers are slacking off.


    A social-networking site for the world of spying officially launches for the U.S. intelligence community this month.

    But that's not the case at the CIA, FBI and the National Security Agency, where bosses are encouraging their staffs to use a new social-networking site designed for the super-secret world of spying.

    "It's every bit Facebook and YouTube for spies, but it's much, much more," said Michael Wertheimer, assistant deputy director of national intelligence for analysis. The program is called A-Space, and it's a social-networking site for analysts within the 16 U.S. intelligence agencies.

    Instead of posting thoughts about the new Avenged Sevenfold album or Jessica Alba movie, CIA analysts could use A-Space to share information and opinion about al Qaeda movements in the Middle East or Russian naval maneuvers in the Black Sea.

    The new A-Space site has been undergoing testing for months and launches officially for the nation's entire intelligence community on September 22.


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    "It's a place where not only spies can meet but share data they've never been able to share before," Wertheimer said. "This is going to give them for the first time a chance to think out loud, think in public amongst their peers, under the protection of an A Space umbrella."

    Wertheimer demonstrated the program to CNN to show how analysts will use it to collaborate.

    "One perfect example is if Osama bin Laden comes out with a new video. How is that video obtained? Where are the very sensitive secret sources we may have to put into a context that's not apparent to the rest of the world?" Wertheimer said.

    "In the past, whoever captured that video or captured information about the video kept it in-house. It's highly classified because it has so very short a shelf life. That information is considered critical to our understanding."

    The goal of A-Space, like intelligence analysis in general, is to protect the United States by assessing all the information available to the spy agencies. Missing key data can have enormous implications, such as an FBI agent who sent an e-mail before September 11, 2001, warning of people learning to fly airplanes but not learning to land them.

    "There was the question, 'Was that a dot that failed to connect?' Well that person did this via e-mail," Wertheimer said. "A-Space is the kind of place where you can log that observation and know that your fellow analysts can see that."

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    Even though Facebook, MySpace and other social-networking sites that inspired A-Space are predominately the domain of young people, there apparently is no such generational divide on A-Space.

    "We have found that participation in A Space crosses every conceivable age line and experience line. People are excited, no matter what age group," Wertheimer said.

    Of course, the material on A Space is highly classified, so it won't be available for the public. Only intelligence personnel with the proper security clearance, and a reason to be examining particular information, can access the site. The creators of A-Space do not want it to be used by some future double agent such as Jonathan Pollard or Robert Hanssen to steal America's 21st-century secrets.

    "We're building [a] mechanism to alert that behavior. We call that, for lack of a better term, the MasterCard, where someone is using their credit card in a way they've never used it before, and it alerts so that maybe that credit card has been stolen," Wertheimer said. "Same thing here. We're going to actually do patterns on the way people use A-Space."

    Yes, analysts can collect friends on A-Space the way people can on Facebook. But nobody outside the intelligence community will ever know -- because they're secret

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    I actually used to think that they had something like this a long time ago :|
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    Way to go CNN...I mean really...just when I think you cant sink any lower you always prove me wrong


    Is anyone else here just a little bit upset about CNN reporting on this....

    I mean...what harm could come from announcing that there is a new spy information network out there..and annoouncing just when its set to go online? I mean its not like hackers could access that information...

    Listen...Im of the belief that there are things we are better off not knowing.... Personally..I dont care about the specifics of Operation X or about spy newtork Y... what I care about is that the enemies of America dissapear... In fact... Im happy just knowing that people are disappearing...I really dont even need to know after the fact.

    Any time the media reports on things like this...I wonder just how close to full blown treason these people will get.

    I mean in both the Civil War and WWII (with Republican/Democrat presidents respectively) the press wasnt given this latitude and was actually punished for leaking this vital information...

    But maybe Im just one of those people that suffers from that disease of common sense and practicality... I know it makes me a terrible person becuase I dont think the press is the almighty glorious orginization it makes itself out to be.... I should just go ...that will make MSNBC happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oglethorpe1983 View Post
    Way to go CNN...I mean really...just when I think you cant sink any lower you always prove me wrong

    Don't let it be a bother to you that the Assistant Deputy Director and Chief Technology Officer of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for Analysis is explaining all of this to CNN. If they wanted it to be kept a secret, it would be. Obviously they have no problem revealing this information exchange network so for you to be making some kind of fuss about the media revealing "secrets" is beyond silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapax View Post

    Don't let it be a bother to you that the Assistant Deputy Director and Chief Technology Officer of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for Analysis is explaining all of this to CNN. If they wanted it to be kept a secret, it would be. Obviously they have no problem revealing this information exchange network so for you to be making some kind of fuss about the media revealing "secrets" is beyond silly.
    There's that, and there's also unofficial leaks. I do wonder though, why they are revealing this.

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    He would have a point if this was some kind of leak and "anonymous sources" but from the article it pretty much sounds like the Intelligence Community said "here CNN, look what we've got!". So for him to be talking about treason is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oglethorpe1983 View Post
    Way to go CNN...I mean really...just when I think you cant sink any lower you always prove me wrong


    Is anyone else here just a little bit upset about CNN reporting on this....

    I mean...what harm could come from announcing that there is a new spy information network out there..and annoouncing just when its set to go online? I mean its not like hackers could access that information...

    Listen...Im of the belief that there are things we are better off not knowing.... Personally..I dont care about the specifics of Operation X or about spy newtork Y... what I care about is that the enemies of America dissapear... In fact... Im happy just knowing that people are disappearing...I really dont even need to know after the fact.

    Any time the media reports on things like this...I wonder just how close to full blown treason these people will get.

    I mean in both the Civil War and WWII (with Republican/Democrat presidents respectively) the press wasnt given this latitude and was actually punished for leaking this vital information...

    But maybe Im just one of those people that suffers from that disease of common sense and practicality... I know it makes me a terrible person becuase I dont think the press is the almighty glorious orginization it makes itself out to be.... I should just go ...that will make MSNBC happy
    if the fbi, cia etc really wanted to keep this secret, they would. making mountains out of mole hills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman View Post
    if the fbi, cia etc really wanted to keep this secret, they would. making mountains out of mole hills.
    I thought moles burrowed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    I thought moles burrowed?
    They do.

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    Oh my god the press is doing their job!

    It's not like it's secret. It's not meant to be.
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    "One perfect example is if Osama bin Laden comes out with a new video. How is that video obtained?
    Uhm....Al-Qaida gives it to Al Jazeera, then they broadcast it to the world?

    Of course, the material on A Space is highly classified, so it won't be available for the public. Only intelligence personnel with the proper security clearance, and a reason to be examining particular information, can access the site. The creators of A-Space do not want it to be used by some future double agent such as Jonathan Pollard or Robert Hanssen to steal America's 21st-century secrets.
    Because websites can't be cracked.

    I'm suspecting there is more behind this than real syping.
    Probably they just want to encourage people to make posts like "ZOMG DA IRANIANZ ARE MAKIN DA BOMB!!!" and then they have a good excuse to invade, 'cos certainly everything posted onlive is 100% reliable.



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    I suspect they have some other kind of program or network, and they just set this one up for the presses and the common people to ogle at and wish they were spies too.

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    aww... a nice little way to raise morale.

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    Oh man, I can just imagine the conversations.

    "Hai guys, im liek so 1337, mah name's bondjamesbond, lol, is so funny lol kthxbai XD"

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    Aww no, I can imagine it being pretty good for being able to talk openly about their jobs due to the burden of secrecy and lies in the real world.

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    lol, what if someone accidentally breaks in??? lol hahahahhahahahahaa
    He will know a lot then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangir View Post
    lol, what if someone accidentally breaks in??? lol hahahahhahahahahaa
    He will know a lot then
    I'm guessing its on a closed network that you won't be able to get in through the regular internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    I'm guessing its on a closed network that you won't be able to get in through the regular internet.
    Anything and everything is hackable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Anything and everything is hackable.
    Not if it has no connection to the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Not if it has no connection to the internet.
    Then it's just a LAN, albeit however big it needs to be to cover an area. We've had those for years already, no need to market this thing like it's some big deal.

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