How does rebels appear?

**henyo10** · September 05, 2008, 06:46 AM

Besides family members just rebelling, what other ways spawn rebels?

**Dead Sun** · September 05, 2008, 06:49 AM

A city dropping below 75% happiness for about two or three turns. The whole city revolts against you.
Captains can desert you
Rebels appear if you've got too much law in a city or region.
thats as much as i know, hope it helps

**J@mes** · September 05, 2008, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by henyo10

Besides family members just rebelling, what other ways spawn rebels?

rebels spawns are controlled in the descr_strat

these are the lines

brigand_spawn_value 20
pirate_spawn_value 28

**panurge** · September 05, 2008, 09:42 AM

Rebels often spawn near spies.

**Viking Prince** · September 05, 2008, 10:03 AM

Anybody know if your units are more likely to turn when florins go negative?

**Azurius** · September 05, 2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Viking Prince

Anybody know if your units are more likely to turn when florins go negative?

I know loyalty of your Generals begin to drop, but I've noticed when I have a Generaless army outside of a settlement and my country is doing bad, they disappear.

**Sorkenlol** · September 05, 2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Azurius

I know loyalty of your Generals begin to drop, but I've noticed when I have a Generaless army outside of a settlement and my country is doing bad, they disappear.

That's happened to me too, I once built a massive army to crusade for Vilnius, my good generals was off in britain so I took a 0 loyalty 4 command general, joined the crusade, and then 1 turn after I'd joined the crusade the general just left and the army deserted the next turn.

**Sargon_of_Akkad** · September 07, 2008, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Sorkenlol

That's happened to me too, I once built a massive army to crusade for Vilnius, my good generals was off in britain so I took a 0 loyalty 4 command general, joined the crusade, and then 1 turn after I'd joined the crusade the general just left and the army deserted the next turn.

You accept 0 loyalty generals?

I decline any generals who have the "mixed loyalties" traits or worse, and I either use family members with low loyalty for city minders, or get them killed.

**Spartan90** · September 07, 2008, 11:32 PM

Happiness doesn't necessarily have to do with rebels randomly spawning in your country-side. I have rebels quite constantly spawn in my constantinople region that has around 240% happiness.

If you have enemy soldiers in your region, rebels seem to spawn quicker. The thing is, if they do appear, get rid of them ASAP! they cause devastation to your land, ruining your farming income, and cutting off your trade routes