Nature of an all-loving god

[finsternis]

An all-loving god loves all and everything. An all-loving god knows no emotion but love; he feels no anger, hate, greed, sorrow. An all-loving god loves what he creates and what he does not. An all-loving god has no personality for personalities are a combination of emotions, and the all-loving god is but one: love. An all-loving god has no shape for love has no shape, no color, no face. An all-loving god has no religion or nation, for religions and nations separate people and love expands to all and everything, from humans to rocks, from the Earth to the other side of the universe. An all-loving god makes no choices but love.

An all-hateful god hates all and everything. An all-hateful god knows no emotion but hate; he feels no compassion, love, charity, joy. An all-hateful god hates what he creates and what he does not. An all-hateful god has no personality for personalities are a combination of emotions, and the all-hateful god is but one: hate. An all-hateful god has no shape for hate has no shape, no color, no face. An all-hateful god has a religion and nation, for religions nations separate people, makes them hate and envy one another and his hate expands to all and everything, from humans to rocks, from the Earth to the other side of the universe. An all-hateful god makes lots of choices, for the paths to hate are abundant.



Which is your god?

[Zenith Darksea]

Mine is the God of the Christians.

I really don't see what the point of all this is. You've decided to come up with your own definitions for love, religion, hate and so on to serve your own ends. Essentially, the only question that you have asked here is:

"Do you agree with me or do you agree with me?"

Perhaps you should stop trying to tell God what He is and let Him tell you.

[finsternis]

Mine is the God of the Christians.

I really don't see what the point of all this is. You've decided to come up with your own definitions for love, religion, hate and so on to serve your own ends. Essentially, the only question that you have asked here is:

"Do you agree with me or do you agree with me?"

Perhaps you should stop trying to tell God what He is and let Him tell you.

wrong my friend. I am not defining "god". I am defining "an" all-loving/hateful god. That does not mean that god is either. I am just making a point for people who say that their god is all loving. Is he All loving?

@Thanatos

Maybe you are right. Maybe ultimate love is that: nothing. And if god is all-loving, as people say, then he is that: nothing. And if he is not all loving, then what separates him from being an powerful demon?

[Thanatos]

@Thanatos

Maybe you are right. Maybe ultimate love is that: nothing.

That's not what I meant. There is ultimate love, and there is a love that loves everything equally, no matter what it may be, however bad it is.

You can't be both good and evil at once. You can't serve two masters.

[MaximiIian]

And if he is not all loving, then what separates him from being an powerful demon?

You're working with extremes here. Perhaps a god, or in my case the gods, are somewhere in between- they are equally capable of compassion and mercy as they are anger and rage; though since they are gods, they would have a broader range of emotions beyond our imagination, and so could working in extremes we cannot even conceptualize, as well as everything in between.

[Poach]

Mine is no God. Atheism leaves no room for your Gods.

[Thanatos]

If God is accepting of everything, He stands for nothing.

[Mithie]

My god is chaotic neutral. His favored weapon is the quarterstaff, and every spring, he blesses his favored ones with six days of non-stop rain.

[Chaigidel]

the idea of god having emotions is honestly insulting.

will you humanize everything you touch until the end of time? -- probably.

[Thanatos]

the idea of god having emotions is honestly insulting.

will you humanize everything you touch until the end of time? -- probably.

Yeah, of course He doesn't have any emotions, He's a friggin' robot.

[finsternis]

That's not what I meant. There is ultimate love, and there is a love that loves everything equally, no matter what it may be, however bad it is.

You can't be both good and evil at once. You can't serve two masters.

Then why did you say this?

If God is accepting of everything, He stands for nothing.

He accepts everything but hate (since love is the opposite of hate).

You're working with extremes here. Perhaps a god, or in my case the gods, are somewhere in between- they are equally capable of compassion and mercy as they are anger and rage; though since they are gods, they would have a broader range of emotions beyond our imagination, and so could working in extremes we cannot even conceptualize, as well as everything in between.

Well, then your gods are not all-loving gods. That's ok since there a many (for you). And if there are many, then it is no necessary for them to have ultimate qualities. But I was directing the post to people who claim that their god is an all-loving god.

My god is chaotic neutral. His favored weapon is the quarterstaff, and every spring, he blesses his favored ones with six days of non-stop rain.

lol. Wouldn't 6 days of rain be a bad thing?

the idea of god having emotions is honestly insulting.

will you humanize everything you touch until the end of time? -- probably.

You mean emotions but love, right? And if there is more than one, then why not? They would be like superpowerful humans.

[Sadreddine]

He accepts everything but hate (since love is the opposite of hate).

Not neccessary to adhere to such basic greek logic. God would accept hate (otherwise that would render Him powerless, because we know hate does exist; without hate, love has no meaning) just He wouldn't order it.

And if there is more than one, then why not? They would be like superpowerful humans.

That's the funny thing about polytheism.

[Eugenios]

That's the funny thing about polytheism.

Funny thing about polytheism is that, were it accepted in the western world, most here would be saying 'mine are both', rather than arguing.

[MaximiIian]

That's the funny thing about polytheism.

Ehh...not quite. To many of us, there is a certain quality about the gods, that is hard to put into words, on how they are not simply superpowered mortals. Though in some historical religions, that line wasn't so clear, as the Pharaohs and supposed god-Kings show; most modern polytheistic paradigms take a solid defining line between celestial entities and mortals beings.
Could be, to me, that they are capable of operation between and within all universes and dimensions of space and time, and capable of subtle and overt manipulation of reality through them existing beyond our universe's physical constraints. Or, in simple terms- immortal, preternatural, and of significant power and potency. But definitely not just "powerful humans"; I don't even think they are naturally in an anthropomorphic form- I think they take such forms in when presenting themselves to us to make it easier to handle, regardless of if they reveal themselves in dreams, epiphanies, or altered states of consciousness.

[Thanatos]

He accepts everything but hate (since love is the opposite of hate).

He loves us, but he hates the sin. However, if the person will not turn away from his sin, then God cannot accept him, because nothing that isn't pure can be close to God.

[finsternis]

Not neccessary to adhere to such basic greek logic. God would accept hate (otherwise that would render Him powerless, because we know hate does exist; without hate, love has no meaning) just He wouldn't order it.

Well, I am talking about an all-loving god, not an all powerful god.

In my opinion if there is a perfect god (don't know really does god really exists or not) then he would must be a neutral and objective god, not loving god. Otherwise he would be a very bad judge and a very imperfect owner of the world.

You are talking about a deistic god, not a theistic one.

He loves us, but he hates the sin. However, if the person will not turn away from his sin, then God cannot accept him, because nothing that isn't pure can be close to God.

But an all-loving god cannot hate sin. He may not like it, but hate it? How can an all-loving god hate anything?

[Thanatos]

But an all-loving god cannot hate sin. He may not like it, but hate it? How can an all-loving god hate anything?

Because sin is the complete opposite of what God stands for.

[Łukomski]

You are talking about a deistic god, not a theistic one.

Actually god in definition. What in your POV is diffrence between deistic god and theistic god? I only said no more, no less, that he has to be a good judge (which is obvious that judge cannot be biased), so where you see Deism in it? Deism says only about "God the clockworker" which from time to time wind up the clock, not even caring about what is going on around him.

[Łukomski]

In my opinion if there is a perfect god (don't know really does god really exists or not) then he would must be a neutral and objective god, not loving god. Otherwise he would be a very bad judge and a very imperfect owner of the world.

[Chaigidel]

gods love is not mans love--- the perspectives are so different as to be entirely different prospects I imagine.

God does not hate
God does not Love

God is hate and love; God is you but you are not God.