Are family ages important?

[Mikelus Trento]

I got to wondering last night as they showed John McCain's 90 year old mother at the convention about the male side of the family. The Repubs obviously like to show and talk about McCain's mother since she has survived into old age, as an attempt to debunk the number 1 concern many folks have about him, his age. (note- personally, I have more serious concerns about his anger management).

So I just looked up on wiki to find out the ages of his father and grandfather (which he and the Repubs point to often). Guess what?

John McCain's father died at age 70, 2 years younger than the candidate is now.

And his grandfather died at age 61.

One could conclude then (despite the Repubs attempt to steer the focus to his mother), that John McCain is living on "borrowed time". Which brings into even more serious question the wisdom of choosing such a VP choice as Palin.

[attilavolciak07]

I would respond, but I agreed to be a "Poster for Honor in Politics" user.

[Mikelus Trento]

I would respond, but I agreed to be a "Poster for Honor in Politics" user.

It is not dishonorable to post truthful things.

[Bleda]

Age is a big reason Bob Dole didn't get elected, yet he lives on...

[Mikelus Trento]

Age is a big reason Bob Dole didn't get elected, yet he lives on...

And Dole is related to McCain in what way? Familial speaking

[Bleda]

And Dole is related to McCain in what way? Familial speaking

Their being related is irrelevant. The point is that that same argument was used against Dole with great affect to his electability, but as it turns out, he is alive some 4 or 5 presidential terms later. In fact Dole's father lived to be 75 and his grandfather was 89 when he died, but that didn't stop anyone from using that argument then. Appearantly, familial longevity has little to do with the ole "oh he's too old" argument. I don't think anyone except McCain and his doctor are in a position to say he will or will not be dead in 4 years time.

[Каие]

This is a theory in the King Charles debate too, the men die much younger in the Family then the women.

[Viking Prince]

And what does such comparisions with family mean? Did granddad get the same quality of medical care than Sen. McCain? Does the average American get the same quality of medical care than the President? What about diet? What about exercise? What other factors can be important?

Why say dad died at age ____, therefore son will die around age ____? Way to simplistic. A debating point failure.

[Каие]

And what does such comparisions with family mean? Did granddad get the same quality of medical care than Sen. McCain? Does the average American get the same quality of medical care than the President? What about diet? What about exercise? What other factors can be important?

Why say dad died at age ____, therefore son will die around age ____? Way to simplistic. A debating point failure.

Well his mother and dad lived together, and one died way before the other. The McCains are rich too, richer than the President...

[Viking Prince]

Well his mother and dad lived together, and one died way before the other. The McCains are rich too, richer than the President...

Sorry. I do not follow.

I was pointing out that there are a great many factors into why people live as long as they do. The causal relationship can be some mix of genetics, social habits, technology, willingness to take medical advice, etc. A simplistic statement is very insufficient. As I said, such a simplistic statement is a debating point failure.

[Каие]

Sorry. I do not follow.

I was pointing out that there are a great many factors into why people live as long as they do. The causal relationship can be some mix of genetics, social habits, technology, willingness to take medical advice, etc. A simplistic statement is very insufficient. As I said, such a simplistic statement is a debating point failure.

The come back was his mother lived while his father died. So if both received the same care etc. and lived together, then the thing may be genetic its not unheard of.

[André Masséna]

My Grandmother died at age 50. My mother is aged 52.

Is she on death's door?

[Richard]

I got to wondering last night as they showed John McCain's 90 year old mother at the convention about the male side of the family. The Repubs obviously like to show and talk about McCain's mother since she has survived into old age, as an attempt to debunk the number 1 concern many folks have about him, his age. (note- personally, I have more serious concerns about his anger management).

So I just looked up on wiki to find out the ages of his father and grandfather (which he and the Repubs point to often). Guess what?

John McCain's father died at age 70, 2 years younger than the candidate is now.

And his grandfather died at age 61.

One could conclude then (despite the Repubs attempt to steer the focus to his mother), that John McCain is living on "borrowed time". Which brings into even more serious question the wisdom of choosing such a VP choice as Palin.

You really have an obession with this guy's age, don't you. I hope for you're sake that when you're 72 you aren't treated with such contempt. It says it grandfather died of a heart attack, but not what killed his father. If John McCain has any existing medical conditions, I think your point is valid. If not he's possibly still at increased risk, depending on whether heart problems also killed his father.

[Hunter Makoy]

You really have an obession with this guy's age, don't you. I hope for you're sake that when you're 72 you aren't treated with such contempt. It says it grandfather died of a heart attack, but not what killed his father. If John McCain has any existing medical conditions, I think your point is valid. If not he's possibly still at increased risk, depending on whether heart problems also killed his father.

can i just second ur post or something?

even in his own family tree it is pretty irrelavant how old the men were when they died. the most concise conclusion you could ever make is "the men prolly wont live as long as the women", and thats true EVERYWHERE.

[Scandinavisksoldat]

One could conclude then (despite the Repubs attempt to steer the focus to his mother), that John McCain is living on "borrowed time". Which brings into even more serious question the wisdom of choosing such a VP choice as Palin.

Right well do you have any info on HOW they died?