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    Default Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/n...01/126824.html

    Dutch Paper: U.S. Will Attack Iran in Weeks

    Monday, September 1, 2008 10:42 PM


    The largest newspaper in the Netherlands, De Telegraaf, reported this past weekend that its nation's intelligence agency has been working closely with the CIA to help prepare the U.S. in a planned air attack on Iran.


    The front-page story in De Telegraaf, published Friday and headlined "Attack on Iran Imminent," claimed that U.S. military strikes on Iran's nuclear and weapons facilities would happen in weeks.


    The paper indicated Holland's military intelligence service (Algemene Inlichtingen-en Veiligheidsdienst, or AIVD), has pulled back from its operations inside Iran helping the U.S. to identify targets.


    De Telegraaf reports that the decision has already been made by the U.S. to attack Iran using unmanned aircraft, hence the Netherlands' decision to remove its agents.


    Excerpts from De Telegraaf follow:


    "Good sources have declared to the Telegraaf that the AIVD Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst has been operating in Iran for the last few years with the purpose of the infiltration and sabotage of the weapons industry of the Iranian republic.

    "The operations are said to have been 'very successful' but have recently been put to a halt because of American plans for an air attack. Information regarding the AIVD operation has been shared with the CIA in recent years, according to the sources.


    "Iran is believed to be working towards an atomic bomb and refuses to comply to Western demands to stop enriching uranium. In June Israeli vice president Shaul Mofaz made the statement that an Israeli attack is inevitable if Iran continues its quest for atomic weapons."

    WTF?

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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    I dont think so...

    Iran is believed to be working towards an atomic bomb and refuses to comply to Western demands to stop enriching uranium. In June Israeli vice president Shaul Mofaz made the statement that an Israeli attack is inevitable if Iran continues its quest for atomic weapons."
    "Believed to" Like Saddam was "believed to" have weapons of mass destruction?
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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    Yes the belief is not a good excuse, you can't even be sure that they would even use it if they had one and if anyone wants anything to change positivly in Iran I think its best to let it happen graduly. You can't act upon the suspicion of a threat unless its definitely life threatening.





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    Quote Originally Posted by persianfan247 View Post
    You can't act upon the suspicion of a threat unless its definitely life threatening.
    That didn't stop them attacking Iraq and then saying, "sorry, we thought you were going to attack us".

    Understand that any attack on Iran, even just a handful of tactical strikes at key sites, will be met by a response in our own countries. particularly in Britain if and when we support the attack.
    Young Muslim men will be on the streets rioting in many places. There will be more suicide attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medi Rapper View Post
    That didn't stop them attacking Iraq and then saying, "sorry, we thought you were going to attack us".

    Understand that any attack on Iran, even just a handful of tactical strikes at key sites, will be met by a response in our own countries. particularly in Britain if and when we support the attack.
    Young Muslim men will be on the streets rioting in many places. There will be more suicide attacks.

    But *IF* those in power rate that circumstance as less damaging than Iran having a nuke, or if they fear that emmigration would destroy Israel by those leaving in fear of Iran being nuke capable, then Israel will attack.

    Not the US though, it won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medi Rapper View Post
    Understand that any attack on Iran, even just a handful of tactical strikes at key sites, will be met by a response in our own countries. particularly in Britain if and when we support the attack.
    Young Muslim men will be on the streets rioting in many places. There will be more suicide attacks.
    Its Iran dude, radical traditional Sunnist Muslims dont care about them. There will be backlashes if there is invasion against Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Syria.


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    But there will be backlash in the Shia part of the Islamic world. Southern Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and such. They will erupt if Iran is attacked.
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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew87 View Post

    I think you'll find that the Dutch writer has been taking advantage of the his countries relaxed drugs laws just before he wrote this piece.

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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    I think you'll find that the Dutch writer has been taking advantage of the his countries relaxed drugs laws just before he wrote this piece.
    lol, and I was trying really hard not to stereotype the dutch when I first saw this article...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    I think you'll find that the Dutch writer has been taking advantage of the his countries relaxed drugs laws just before he wrote this piece.

    Hahahaa

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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    How the hell could Der Telegraaf get their hands on this information?

    Are the dutch intelligence agencies that bad at keeping secrets or are the dutch newspapers that good...?

    ...or is this just some "sensational news" to sell newspapers?

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    Its one the most crappiest newspaper of the country, the article is full of assumptions/mistakes and I do not see Dutch Intelligence working in Iran. They are simply not allowed to, let alone they have the skills. Not the country's best and brightest....

    However the newspaper has a new editor in chief, sales are dropping, and voila bogus stories. Probably a intelligence member having a talk in a bar with a very unproffesional journalist. And having a good laugh now.

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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew87 View Post
    How the hell could Der Telegraaf get their hands on this information?

    Are the dutch intelligence agencies that bad at keeping secrets or are the dutch newspapers that good...?

    ...or is this just some "sensational news" to sell newspapers?
    Who needs intelligence agencies! Just send in the Dutch journalists!
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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Who needs intelligence agencies! Just send in the Dutch journalists!
    Indeed, our Dutch journalists will get all the secret information from your enemies!

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    Yeah I guess it's like the BILD in Germany. It's also the biggest magazine here (not allowed to call itself newspaper anymore, at least) but anyone who has an IQ beyond 80 knows that 90% is just BS and the other 10% are accidently true.

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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    There is no chance the US is going to attack Iran.

    Their military is too comitted in Iraq and Afghanistan. And there is the small matter of Russia and their sabre-rattling to think about. If there is a war in the gulf, watch the oil price go through the roof.

    Even Bush isn't that stupid.

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    Bush cant possibly be dumb enough to start a 3rd war...could he? I mean just a few months b4 elections?

    also... if this was true why on earth would we tell the dutch? No offence to the Dutch here but im pretty sure that the USA should have access to anything the dutch could offer us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexille View Post
    Bush cant possibly be dumb enough to start a 3rd war...could he? I mean just a few months b4 elections?
    Exactly, if not now then when else? Time is running out for Bush to wage another war in his desperate attempt to leave a legacy.


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    Default Re: Dutch Paper: US will attack Iran in weeks

    It'll take America weeks just to pull together troops, armaments, and the ships needed to attack Iran effectively. And we'll know it when we see 200,000 additional troops, with a thousand tanks move to Iraq/Afganastan in the buildup.

    Unless they mean an airstrike on their nuclear facilities, then we'd probably just use our allies in israel to do that just like we did with Syria.
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    I just dont see this being serious... Iraqs finally settling down and this suggests we start a war with Iraq's neighbor?

    I mean is Bush sitting in the Whitehouse thinking "Man Iraq's gotten too calm, I need to stir some up to keep the troops from gettin bored!"

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