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    In English class, my teacher spoke of how Gandhi became so spiritual and forward-thinking.

    He claimed when Gandhi was young, he slept with his decrepit and invalid father's young bride, who was pregnant at the time. After sleeping with her, a servant came in and informed him his father passed away.

    Overcome with grief, he indebted his life to the progress of all the people of India.

    Gandhi, a man we could call Christ-like for his conduct, only became so after a traumatizing event in his life, his infidelity to his father and cuckolding his father's wife.

    My follow-up question: does anyone think history could have left out some event in Christ's life that lead him to his higher path?
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    I doubt it, from a very young age, if you believe that the scriptures are true, he was seen preaching in the Temple about God, and the Pharisees (the Jewish high priests) were "exceedingly amazed".

    The entire spiritual ideology behind Jesus was that he was the single sinless man alive, and that he was the incarnation of God on Earth for the sole purpose of providing the entire world with the final sacrifice and the messiah that was promised to the Jewish people. Ghandi, on the other hand, taught (forgive, I'm not the best student of other religions and this is mostly from what I have surmised from snippets of historical data) that salvation came through self-sacrifice, which is a logical conclusion after the guilt he had. However, comparing that to Jesus would be different, sure he could be a Christ-like figure, but not necessarily Christ.
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    Christ was molested as a child, and told it was his fault. What do you think of that?
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    I'd say your making stuff up.
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    I'd say I'm -disturbing. But disturbing the with a point I might add.


    .... disturbing with a stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    In English class, my teacher spoke of how Gandhi became so spiritual and forward-thinking.

    He claimed when Gandhi was young, he slept with his decrepit and invalid father's young bride, who was pregnant at the time. After sleeping with her, a servant came in and informed him his father passed away.

    Overcome with grief, he indebted his life to the progress of all the people of India.

    Gandhi, a man we could call Christ-like for his conduct, only became so after a traumatizing event in his life, his infidelity to his father and cuckolding his father's wife.

    My follow-up question: does anyone think history could have left out some event in Christ's life that lead him to his higher path?
    This is ridiculous. Ghandi was not a saint, he was not flawless. There is in fact considerable evidence that he, alongside the majority of India, considered those with darker skin inferior. Shock! Ghandi held the same views as the majority of his society, the same perceptions, the same flaws, only he was peaceful and diplomatic about it. Thats aboot it. Deifying Ghandi is just as ridiculous as the Hero worship of the founding fathers of America. They did great things, they were obviously men of Virtue, though they were still men, they had massive flaws of character, be they exposed or otherwise.

    As for Christ, its been 2000 years. I highly doubt any details of his life, political or religious beliefs bare many similarities to who he really was. Hero worship and all that. I don't care much for Idols, to be frank.
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    2000 years is a lot of time to make a man a demigod.

    200 years of absolute rule over history books can do it in 20 years.
    But mark me well; Religion is my name;
    An angel once: but now a fury grown,
    Too often talked of, but too little known.

    -Jonathan Swift

    "There's only a few things I'd actually kill for: revenge, jewelry, Father O'Malley's weedwacker..."
    -Bender (Futurama) awesome

    Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.
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    I believe Gandhi did say "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. " I guess he admired Christ's teaching and was influenced by it.
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    we know far too much about ghandi for him to be christ like

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    Gandhi said he followed the Sermon on the Mount. He used to exchange letters with Leo Tolstoy, as Leo Tolstoy was writing a book on Christian non-violence called "The Kingdom Of God Is Within You". It's a very good read.

    Gandhi's non-violence movement was influenced by the Sermon on the Mount, given by Jesus, if not directly the result of Jesus' teaching.

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    I could claim, though be hard to back up, that Christ himself was not so different. History, accepted history, is against me.
    But mark me well; Religion is my name;
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    Too often talked of, but too little known.

    -Jonathan Swift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    I could claim, though be hard to back up, that Christ himself was not so different. History, accepted history, is against me.
    Different from what? Other men?

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    i dont think he slept with his father's invalid wife. But i think he was sleeping his own wife ... that is Kasturba. And when he recieved his father's death news he was ashamed that lust came over him even when his father was dying. After it he never had sex for the sake of pleasure ... or so he told people

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianPrince View Post
    i dont think he slept with his father's invalid wife. But i think he was sleeping his own wife ... that is Kasturba. And when he recieved his father's death news he was ashamed that lust came over him even when his father was dying. After it he never had sex for the sake of pleasure ... or so he told people

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    Yes, this is what happened. He felt guilty for satisfying his lust with his wife rather than being at his father's side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Yes, this is what happened. He felt guilty for satisfying his lust with his wife rather than being at his father's side.
    I was right ? yay ... yeah cuz i was just like Gandhi had sex with his father's illegitimate wife ?! whaaaaaaaaa

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    Not someone divine. Not someone "special" but a person made to be special because we relate to it more.
    But mark me well; Religion is my name;
    An angel once: but now a fury grown,
    Too often talked of, but too little known.

    -Jonathan Swift

    "There's only a few things I'd actually kill for: revenge, jewelry, Father O'Malley's weedwacker..."
    -Bender (Futurama) awesome

    Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.
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    Gandhi spoke of and advocated general global peace and Indian sovereignty, through non-violent resistance.

    Jesus spoke of impending doom for those that didn't believe him, preached vague notions of forgiveness and salvation for those that did, and advocated Jewish sovereignty through non-violent resistance.

    The only real similarities between the two are their nationalism, and their advocacy of non-violent, or at least non-confrontational, resistance to tyranny. But the other parts of their messages are very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    In English class, my teacher spoke of how Gandhi became so spiritual and forward-thinking.

    He claimed when Gandhi was young, he slept with his decrepit and invalid father's young bride, who was pregnant at the time. After sleeping with her, a servant came in and informed him his father passed away.

    Overcome with grief, he indebted his life to the progress of all the people of India.

    Gandhi, a man we could call Christ-like for his conduct, only became so after a traumatizing event in his life, his infidelity to his father and cuckolding his father's wife.

    My follow-up question: does anyone think history could have left out some event in Christ's life that lead him to his higher path?
    That's an interesting question. That could be true and I wouldn't be surprise if it was.
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    This depends on what Christ was like.

    I would say Christ was Gandhi-like but fell short of satyagraha.

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    Gandhi has been exposed as a supporter of the class system by some historians and was in the military, he was not remotely Christ like.

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