Adding senate office traits?

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 04:12 AM

Hello, I've been playing the ExRM mod for Rome: Total Realism recently, but i've become dissatisfied with the lack of senate office traits - other than the ones introduced by Marcus Camillus.

So i've tried importing the traits from Terra Expugnandae, aka the Consul, Praetor, Aedile etc traits, however, it does not work.

I've taken the traits as they are in the Terra Expugnandae folder and imported them into the export_descr_character_traits, the export_descr_VnVs_enums and the export_VnVs.

Still, however it does not work.

I can play the game okay, and I think the traits actually do happen, mainly due to this:

I can start up the game, and click my faction leader who's got 6 or 7 points in influence, and see his ancillaries and traits alright.

However, if I run the game for a few turns, I won't be able to look up his traits without the game crashing - same thing with some of the other characters. So I'm wondering if theres anything I haven't added that needs to be?

**Aradan** · August 30, 2008, 04:58 AM

First thing you do: download Squid's Trait Validator.

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 06:54 AM

Thanks, that helped

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 06:59 AM

Argh, now I just need to ask one more question:

When a character have gotten the "Quaestor" trait, he's Quaestor for 4 turns. (1 year)

Afterwards, he gets the trait "Ex-Quaestor".

This "ex" trait is supposed to last a lifetime, but sadly this also only lasts for 4 turns, after which it disappears, and my character is re-elected Quaestor again.

This means that he will never get further than Quaestor in his Cursus Honorum.

What do I need to change to make the "ex" traits last a lifetime?

**Aradan** · August 30, 2008, 07:04 AM

The code must be wrong. Can you post here the relevant EDCT code (traits & triggers)?

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 07:24 AM

;------------------------------------------
; SENATE OFFICES
;------------------------------------------
Trait Aedile
Characters family
AntiTraits notAedile
Level Office_of_Aedile
Description Office_of_Aedile_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Aedile_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1
Effect Law 1
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait Censor
Characters family
AntiTraits notCensor
Level Office_of_Censor
Description Office_of_Censor_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Censor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 3
Effect Management 2

;Mod145 - 11/02 : reduced influence bonus to 2
;------------------------------------------
Trait Consul
Characters family
AntiTraits notConsul
Level Office_of_Consul
Description Office_of_Consul_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Consul_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2
Effect Command 2
Effect Management 2

;Mod146 - 11/02 : reduced command bonus by 1
;------------------------------------------
Trait PontifexMaximus
Characters family
AntiTraits notPontifexMaximus
Level Office_of_Pontifex_Maximus
Description Office_of_Pontifex_Maximus_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Pontifex_Maximus_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 4

;Mod142 - 11/02 : reduced influence to 4
;------------------------------------------
Trait Praetor
Characters family
AntiTraits notPraetor
Level Office_of_Praetor
Description Office_of_Praetor_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Praetor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1
Effect Law 2
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait Quaestor
Characters family
AntiTraits notQuaestor
Level Office_of_Quaestor
Description Office_of_Quaestor_desc
EffectsDescription Office_of_Quaestor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait notAedile
Characters family
AntiTraits Aedile
Level Ex_Aedile
Description Ex_Aedile_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Aedile_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait notCensor
Characters family
AntiTraits Censor
Level Ex_Censor
Description Ex_Censor_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Censor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1
Effect Influence 1

;Mod143 - 11/02 : removed inf bonus, added +1 management
;------------------------------------------
Trait notConsul
Characters family
AntiTraits Consul
Level Ex_Consul
Description Ex_Consul_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Consul_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Command 1
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait notPontifexMaximus
Characters family
AntiTraits PontifexMaximus
Level Ex_Pontifex_Maximus
Description Ex_Pontifex_Maximus_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Pontifex_Maximus_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 2

;Mod144 - 11/02 : reduced inf bonus to 2
;------------------------------------------
Trait notPraetor
Characters family
AntiTraits Praetor
Level Ex_Praetor
Description Ex_Praetor_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Praetor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Law 1
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trait notQuaestor
Characters family
AntiTraits Quaestor
Level Ex_Quaestor
Description Ex_Quaestor_desc
EffectsDescription Ex_Quaestor_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Influence 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Quaestor
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive < 8
and Attribute Influence > 2
and Trait Quaestor < 1
Affects Quaestor 1 Chance 25
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Aedile
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 4
and Trait TurnsAlive < 16
and Attribute Influence > 2
and Attribute Management > 0
and Trait Aedile < 1
and Trait notAedile < 1
Affects Aedile 1 Chance 50
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Praetor
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 8
and Trait TurnsAlive < 24
and Attribute Influence > 4
and Attribute Management > 1
and Trait Praetor < 1
and Trait notPraetor < 1
Affects Praetor 1 Chance 50
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Consul
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 12
and Attribute Influence > 5
and Attribute Command > 4
and Attribute Management > 2
and Trait Consul < 1
and Trait notConsul < 1
Affects Consul 1 Chance 50
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Censor
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 12
and Attribute Influence > 6
and Attribute Management > 3
and Trait Censor < 1
and Trait notCensor < 1
Affects Censor 1 Chance 50
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_PontifexMaximus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 8
and Attribute Influence > 4
and Trait PontifexMaximus < 1
and Trait notPontifexMaximus < 1
Affects PontifexMaximus 1 Chance 25
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_Quaestor_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait Quaestor > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_Aedile_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait Aedile > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_Praetor_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait Praetor > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_Consul_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait Consul > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_Censor_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait Censor > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Count_PontifexMaximus_Turns_in_Office
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait PontifexMaximus > 0
Affects TurnsInOffice 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_Quaestor_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait Quaestor > 0
Affects notQuaestor 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_Aedile_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait Aedile > 0
Affects notAedile 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_Praetor_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait Praetor > 0
Affects notPraetor 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_Consul_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait Consul > 0
Affects notConsul 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_Censor_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait Censor > 0
Affects notCensor 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Reset_PontifexMaximus_after_Term_Expires
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsInOffice = 2
and Trait PontifexMaximus > 0
Affects notPontifexMaximus 2 Chance 100
Affects TurnsOutOfOffice 4 Chance 100

**Aradan** · August 30, 2008, 08:53 AM

Add the bold line (and the appropriate Trait in each case) in the triggers and try again.

Code:

;------------------------------------------
 Trigger Elected_Quaestor
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
 Condition FactionType romans_julii
 and AgentType = family
 and Trait TurnsAlive < 8
 and Attribute Influence > 2
 and Trait Quaestor < 1
  and Trait notQuaestor < 1
 Affects Quaestor 1 Chance 25
 ;------------------------------------------

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 09:19 AM

Thanks! that fixed the disappearing ex-quaestor trait.

However, it still does not seem to work properly!

None of my characters are advancing further than Quaestor, even my faction leader with his influence maxed out is nothing but ex-quaestor.

**Squid** · August 30, 2008, 09:28 AM

My guess would be the turn requirements, it seems that many of the ranks have age limits, the character must be greater than X and less than Y, so if a character manages to not get the ranks every turn until they've been alive more Y then they won't get any of the ranks.

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 09:40 AM

Hmmm, I didn't quite understand that.

**Aradan** · August 30, 2008, 10:17 AM

What Squid said is that: Since those traits have age limitations (notice how they require the characters to be more than X and less than Y turns alive), if a character delays a little bit to become Quaestor and when he's done with that offfice he has lived more than Y turns, then he will never get the next rank, because he's too old. Here's an edited version of a trigger, but I don't know if it's historical enough or if it will damage the gameplay - use at your own risk.

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Elected_Aedile
WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart
Condition FactionType romans_julii
and AgentType = family
and Trait TurnsAlive > 4
;and Trait TurnsAlive < 16
and Attribute Influence > 2
and Attribute Management > 0
and Trait Aedile < 1
and Trait notAedile < 1
and Trait notQuaestor > 1
Affects Aedile 1 Chance 50
;------------------------------------------

Make the apprtopriate changes to the rest of the triggers as well.

**Cozur** · August 30, 2008, 11:00 AM

Ah okay.

Hmm, what do I have to change to make the triggers only require the character be older than fx 30 years to be quaestor, with no "too old" trigger-ish stuff, if you know what I mean?

In other words, what do I need to add to make it so that even a 70 year old can be quaestor, but not a 29 year old?

I'm playing with 4 turns pr year by the way

**Aradan** · August 30, 2008, 11:07 AM

See that semicolon in front of the line I posted in bold?That makes the engine ignore the line. Such lines that read "Trait TurnsAlive < xyz" are the ones that you need to out-comment putting semicolons in front of. It's just what I have done above.