Rebel Banners

[Autolykos]

Hi!

How are the banners for rebels (especially brigands and pirates) determined? I can't find an entry in descr_rebel_factions. Judging by the .tga.dds files it seems to be determined by culture, but whose culture is relevant? I constantly get barbarian-type brigands in a province owned by a carthaginian faction, and my pirates are all barbarian, too. Is there a way to change this?

[Aradan]

descr_cultures.txt has the index which determines the banner for each rebel culture (data/banners/symbols6-7.tga), but I think you can't change the culture that Brigands and Pirates rebel 'factions' are linked to on a per-region basis. May be hardcoded to be barbarian.

[florin80]

This thread might be helpful to you:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=164742
What banner they have depends on a number of things. From the culture faction of descr_regions to the culture the rebel family member from the city has(they have a sub_faction in descr_strat and its mother faction is of a culture type in descr_sm_faction).

[Autolykos]

Thanks for the help! The link has some useful pointers, but does not answer everything.
Testing indicates that the faction/culture tag in descr_regions.txt determines the culture of brigands spawned in each region. Still no clue for pirates, though.

The banner for empty cities might be determined on the same basis, but is per-faction, and not per-culture. And in BI empire_west and empire_west rebels seem to use the same banner (only for empty cities, not for armies, AFAIR - but this needs more testing), as do probably empire_east and empire_east_rebels - but I didn't test this yet. Same for captain_cards and captain_portraits - Sucks for me since empire_west and empire_west_rebels have different cultures in my mod.

[Aradan]

The banner for empty settlement is determined by owning faction at the time. You can find those in data/models_strat/textures/ folder.

[Autolykos]

Yeah, I found those. Your statement is true for non-rebel-factions, but does not explain what banner is used for rebels.
I had the barbarian version (probably celts) on a rebel settlement when the faction/culture tag was celts (culture barbarian) and the faction_creator was empire_west_rebels (culture roman) - there was no rebel general, since it was, of course, empty.
Hence my assumption that it is determined by faction/culture tag in descr_regions - if unowned and empty.

[Aradan]

Ah, that's what you meant. Then yes, your assumption is correct.