units stats

[Prankowski]

hi,

i´m playing M:TW2 for some time now and i start to get deeper into it.
one thing i´d like to know is, how the combat stats of the units work.
or like, how does the combat system behind the scene work?

i often compare units and wonder how i could best compare it as i don´t know how the system works.

good example is a infantry that has 5 attack and 5 defense against an infantry with 3 attack and 5 defense but with the trait "effective against armor"....who is best, and why?

and what´s up with the defense stat, it get´s counted up from armor+shield+defense (if i remember correctly), is the specific distribution of any importance, or is just a big defense number interesting at the end??

i hope i made somewhat clear what i´m after.
i checked the wiki but couldn´t find anything usefull. also searched the forum, but didn´t find anything usefull (or used the wrong words...non native english person )

so, any explanation or link or somewhat would help me alot.

thanks in advance

Prankowski

[Neige]

Effective against armour means, that the unit ignores half of the enemy unit's armour (armour, but not shield or defensive skill).

Remember that missile units ignore enemy defensive skill. But crossbowmen and longbowmen also ignore half the armour.

[Prankowski]

thanks archer, that´s what i thought about.
is there a full list somewhere of that rules/stats ?
i guess there are some more things like that.

[Neige]

Check this - http://files.filefront.com/the+FAUST.../fileinfo.html

Or this - http://files.filefront.com/the+FUSIL.../fileinfo.html

[Prankowski]

and again, thank you very much

that is what i was looking for

[Theseus1234]

and what´s up with the defense stat, it get´s counted up from armor+shield+defense (if i remember correctly), is the specific distribution of any importance, or is just a big defense number interesting at the end??

well, for armors it's a matter of where they get hit to see where the defense takes play. the shield will cover a soldier's front and left side (right side if you face the enemy, so you generally want to attack the left flank) armor covers the soldier all-around, but is susceptible to anti-armor weapons (like axes and whatnot) defense skill will help defend against all kind of melee attacks, cavalry infantry whatever, but not missile attacks. so if the enemy is a unit with high defense skill but little other armor, missile attacks are the way to go

[Tsarevna]

If you're going to be up against family members and their bodyguards, you want to have some "effective against armor" guys or you'll have a very tough time defeating them.

EAA guys are typically infantry, but when you can find them in cavalry, no matter how weak their stats are, they are great.

One strategy is to take regular horsemen, like Mailed Knights, and use them just to run into the enemy's bodyguard unit. They are sacrificial, their job is just to pin down that bodyguard.

Next, I take my EAA guys and attack the general's bodyguard, preferably from behind. EAA guys, like Woodsmen or Huscarls, slice through the bodyguard like butter. If the general's bodyguard flees, use your fastest cavalry, no matter how weak they are, to chase after them.

Even if it doesn't say "fast moving," in the unit card, light cavalry actually can catch up to and overtake heavy knights and bodyguard units. If they so much as even tap a bodyguard unit while it's running away, for some reason, they instantly die. I guess that's what making your back vulnerable does!

[blashger]

I have also found that units with big weapons like those huge axes, lose against "worse" infantry because while they use an hour slamming them down, normal units has sliced them 3 times already.

I'm not sure, but it seems like theys will lose in my tests, but those units are generally called the best units so i don't know...:hmmm:

[Monsieur Alphonse]

I have also found that units with big weapons like those huge axes, lose against "worse" infantry because while they use an hour slamming them down, normal units has sliced them 3 times already.

I'm not sure, but it seems like theys will lose in my tests, but those units are generally called the best units so i don't know...:hmmm:

That is also known as the 2-hander bug . Their lethal attack animation against infantry is to slow and will be blocked, their fast attack animation isn't lethal.

[blashger]

That is also known as the 2-hander bug . Their lethal attack animation against infantry is to slow and will be blocked, their fast attack animation isn't lethal.

So are you saying they are'nt any good?