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    Hello i am creating this thread for people who are stuck at a certain point in a grand campian or need advice what to do next i am currently giving Double A some advice hope fully he likes it.

    All you have to do is tell me who you are what places you have and what are relations with the pope and who your allies and who you are at war(i might to need to know your enemy's or popes allies are) with. then ill give your some advice on what u should attack/or wait out and who your rivals and who you are at war with.

    It might take me awhile to respond because i am gonna think out numerous things you could do (might take 1 hour) (longer if im not home)

    some of you might doubt my descions because of my rep or my post numbers (witch is a good reason) but some fun to me is reading historical battles (i love reading about the crusades) I also watch movies on youtube etc.. About battles or a grope like The templars or hospitalaters.

    Im looking forward to helping people i love battle planing and i would also like for u to replie if my plans helped you in the end. (screen shots would help with your situation or the battles and that your fought so i can help you constantly if something else unexpected happens.

    Hope to also get some rep up and meet some knew friends


    P.s i might need info of armie sizes

    ask for my msn if you want to talk faster
    Last edited by platinumkiller; August 23, 2008 at 12:59 AM. Reason: will speed up proces

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    Alright, why not? Heres a doozy for you:

    Faction: france
    Reputation with the pope: (the emotacon says love, but its just autocovering a very bad word)
    Reputation with the neighbors (aragon, HRE, milan, Scotland): (same situation here)

    the situation:
    My war with england has left me in a bad spot, although ive kicked them from the mainland and have taken control of southern england (with the help of scottish allies) they still hold 2 settlements in middle england. They are not however "on the ropes", still have 2 army stacks floating around. I myself have 1 and half stacks, Im a decent comander and its only h/h on SS 6.1 so with a little retraining and some manuvers I can take them. BUT it will take some time, 10 years at the least. I could probley wrangle a ceasefire considering their condition but it would be a very strained peace, with expensive border garrisons.

    The big issue is this, my economy is barley afloat. France is not exactly well endowed with solid economic oppertunity early in the game. Im still making a positive income but only a few hundred florins and I have a few castles that need conversion (a 6-10 thousand florin endevor). The original plan was to shatter england and turtle up till the economy had gotten off the ground then expand. BUT my rep with the pope just hit the fan and a crusade has been launched for toutalose...owned by me.

    Allies who have back-stabed me:
    Spain
    Milan

    Crusades launched:
    Spain
    Milan
    Denmark
    Poland

    Ive fought off larger crusades before but that was as mighty egypt far from resupply. The crusade was started a turn ago and already milan is a turn away from toutalose. The french mainland is drasticly underdefended with the war in england. There are 3 peasant units and 2 peasant archer units in toutalose, 3 more spear milita units one turn away and every capable general is in england. The milianese crusade has around a dozen units and keep in mind there are 3 more who are most likely within 5 turns.

    THE LOGICAL THING TO DO: evacuate the settlement, let the milanese take it ending the crusade. ~Then~ retake it and have a war with only milian, HOWEVER I fear doing this will cause my testicles to shrivel up and die along with my pride. I have my own theories I'd be interested to hear yours.

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    If you cant re-take the settlement almost immideatley, you can always destroy all money making buildings, and keep the buildings with high upkeep. Then retreat your units (or as I like to do, a fighting withdrawl with enough force to stop the ememy, then melt away into the tree's and re-group). But dont forget to ply many spies inside to cause troubles when they move in.

    Bankrupt enemys can get you a cease fire, spies can make the town/city revolt, they will loose troops trying to re-take the settlement (as we all know rebelious settlements almost always have a full stack of troops), giving you time to re-supply, hit your enemys and re-take the settlement after the garrison has been worn down by your enemys.

    Every action is opertunity for glory....

    EDIT: Oh and if the enemy do move in, make sure you get your assassins to destroy buildings with public order modifiers. Although be aware destroying churches will wiggle on the popes attitude towards you.


    EDITx2: If worst comes to the worst, withdraw completley into southern England, regroup, wipe out England and Scotland, then you should have a good base for income to re-invade continental Europe. Letting a other faction take 2-3 of your settlements in order to cool the heat down to re-group and supply is sometimes nessecery depending on the situation. Just make sure all markets and ports ect are destroyed before the withdrawl.
    Withdrawl can be a good element of strategy for long term war efforts.
    Last edited by ragupasta; August 23, 2008 at 09:29 AM.

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    i have gotten your msg and i am on it asap

    so your first option is to get some units from your 2 closest citys marseille and bordeaux send 2 or 3 units from each or at least the fewest amount that can make it there or make it there buy next turn cauz mulan might maintain the siege. wich would be big even if you have almost out men at the other citys the other armies will not attack them becauz that is not where there crusade is well haveing the bigger armie if u can get reinforcments there you should have have a better chance of winning if you atuo that 1 battle but the other ones your probably wont have the chance 2 this only woks if your bar is bigger then theres the auto battle will also help becauz you dont send your hole armie to battle only 100-200 matters armie sizes but if you have 2 deffend the key is 2 destroy there sige weapons so if they have ladders or siege tower put spear mitlatias up wheere there gona attack key thing is destoy there battering ram if u can destory the battering ram ladders and siege waepons they most likeyly wont do any thin that when u send 1 unit out walk towards the enemy once the charge that unit make the unit run from them and hide back inside let your towers/archers pound the armie with out no loses target there archers first only thing that will kill your bait. i did this for an hour when i was england french invaded me with 998 men and i only had about 250 in the end i had one after rushing them with my spear men after we had about the same amount of men but there weaken by arrows and tired of runing back and forth NOTE towers never run out of arrows

    after victory i would be important to call a ceasfire bring back as much reinforcements as fast as you can for the other crusaders then defend until the cruasade is over then wait until the ceasfire is over (while waiting make some invasion forces and NOTE if there is any other crusade called and u can be in it buy there extra cheap units and use them to invade rest of eropue instead of going on that crusade

    option 2 abbanden th city take the forces to eropue and use them to invade the rest of there citys after that you will i repeat WILL have to get defense up until you are re communicated and if your citys have full armies and you are not comunacted send some units out and make a second armie

    I hope this helps but remember your gona need to get allies there if your dont want to abenden the citys from wat i know of the armie sizes you have given me this should work.

    battle caoustly never think its a good time to rush the other armie unless you are takeing there flank or attacking form behind or they are tired hurt and have less men then your i hope this helps you replie to me of how it gos out this is gona be hard and difficult ill give u that much

    Quote Originally Posted by jsktrogdor View Post

    THE LOGICAL THING TO DO: evacuate the settlement, let the milanese take it ending the crusade. ~Then~ retake it and have a war with only milian, HOWEVER I fear doing this will cause my testicles to shrivel up and die along with my pride. .
    Man all great kings have to pull out at 1 time but there has been way worse humiliating stuff
    Last edited by Empress Meg; August 23, 2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Consec Posting.

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    How can you easily get a cease fire with a faction?

    The problem I'm facing(read my AAR basileia ton Romaion if you want to have more info) is that I'm sandwiched between 3 warring factions including a horde I have one ally but he's almost death and one neutral faction but he keeps attacking my cities and then he asks for a cease fire. I don't have many problems defending my lands, but one day one of my cities will fall and then I'm screwed I would like to have an cease fire with any of my warring neighbors but how do I do that?

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    kallum can you plz tell me who you are and who your rivals and alies are it will help alot and your income and armie stats and if you want a ceasfire there most likely will if they start loseing some battles or your might need to give up some money or if the enemy canot finance the war

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    You can make a stand against Milan easily if you hold them off at the town square. If you had a catapult you can help block the main entrance so less enemies can fight you. (I held off a HRE full stack with half a stack in Paris as Venice (lol) but, then again, half the HRE stack was giant x bows.
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    Okay the mod is Broken Crescent,

    I'm the Eastern Roman empire, I have 7 fully stacked army plus 1 horse archer army. I'm at war with the Egyptians, the Turks and the Georgians, the Kypchack confederacy has just asked a cease fire and I accepted they however keep back stabbing me, I hav e 32k of money so that's not an issue here. I have conquered entire region of modern day Turkey, Egypt and Israel/Palestine, What is an issue however that I'm facing 5 fully stacked Ayyubid armies in Southern Turkey were I have only 2 stacks with two citadels, In israel it's gettign better I have 7 cities and castles but I'm surrounded by Egyptian land, Only greece, western part of Turkey and Egypt is save. The entire eastern part of Turkey is threatenend by Georgians, Turkish and Egyptian forces. As said the Turks are a horde. I want to have an alliance with the Turks as they have the same enemies as I have. The turks like me very much and our relation is outstanding but they keep refusing my questions for cease fire, so how can I cease fire them?

    EDIT: I have 2 full stacks in Palestine and 3 full stacks plus horse archers in Georgia
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    all you will have to do is pay them some money easy as that but if you don't wanna lose money go on a offensive take a city then if you don't need it give them the region back for the ceasfire
    or if you go on a big anuff offensive they will want a caesfire (because the will be loseing the war )

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    the problem is that I can't go on the offensive as I'm facing numerical superiority everywhere
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    money could be doing though I have tried it already

    sorry for dubble posting
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    ok i see have you trtied giving them a reagion or some money cauz that is a key thing to do and also to intimidated them you can prees the button that says accept or we will attack another key thing to do take you diploment to another city one with out a king/genral they will accept more often

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    might be a good idea to post a screenshot of the campaign map where your problems are. A picture says a thousand words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragupasta View Post
    might be a good idea to post a screenshot of the campaign map where your problems are. A picture says a thousand words.
    yes it is it says in my opening SCREEN SHOTS are important but i wikll still try to help you with out any

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    is that true? I will try thank you + rep
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    all right I'll find it and post it soon
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    oh totally forgot about it playing and posting the pics now brb
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    here are the maps

    first up the area I think witch is the most dangerous the northern part of Cilicia



    Next up the eastern part of that area



    Then the north of my holdings in palestine



    Then the south of that area



    then the northern front with Georgia

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    i need to know wat guys/ color of flag you are

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    wow taht imbarssing boy im dumb nvm i know but who are the turks?

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