Fox news (and probably other 24/7 networks) showing its a propaganda organization, not news. Georgia Conflict example.

[Kanaric]

This is about the fighting in Georgia.

These two Americans who were stuck there talk about how from what they have seen Georgia is the aggressors in this conflict. When they start to say this you can hear the reaction of the people who work for Faux saying "cut to commercial".

This is probably proof that Fox News and probably other 24/7 news stations are just propaganda outlets and not real sources of news. No news or perspective is to be broadcasted except what fox news execs, and George Bush, states is reality.

Anyone who watches these stations and believes the majority of whats reported, especially fox news, is a tool. Its been known that they are not reporting actual news for years except people STILL choose to go to Fox and other 24/7 stations for their primary source of news.

From seeing my posts obviously i have been siding with Georgia in this conflict, however the fact that our nations news outlets are just as bad as those in Russia in terms of being a Pravda equivalent is just simply sad. I wonder what other things this and other stations lie about and don't report... since they obviously are more interested in licking boots than bringing us the news. Ah to be in the 70s again when journalism was about reporting on reality rather than forcing "opinions" on the populace.

[roy34543]

i trust wikipedia...Quite a lot more then these news agencies

[Kanaric]

Sadly I agree, at least on there all opinions and sides are represented.

[Panzerbear]

thats the reason why anybody, who wants to read news doesnt turn on TV anymore . all hail internet!

[Stark of Winterfell]

Fox and the other news channels aren't really propaganda, they're just biased and report what they think people will watch, instead of reliable information. Not that that's any better really...

[Kanaric]

The one unfortunate thing about the internet is that a lot of sources are even worse, especially bloggers. Its too easy to lie and make things up online, and people often take extreme positions or pull out of their ass. Its hard to find good solid news info that isn't tainted by an obvious bias and agenda. Its nice however to have access because at least online good sources exist. Its great being able to access videos from people actually affected by these issues such as this Georgian conflict.

Professional news organizations should be we trust for news, but obviously we can't. Too interested in a political agenda and ratings.

I remember a while ago watching some interview where someone said in the past it was considered a good public service and a respectable enterprise for a media outlet to come up with a news source, in this case a newspaper or a broadcast. They wouldn't care if there is a profit loss, they just wanted to report the news... the facts of what is going on. Now a days EVERYTHING must make money with these companies, and as a result news is no longer news.

Opinion news isn't news. If you watch fox news because your a conservative or CNN because you are a liberal you are just watching people agreeing with you, you are not watching the news. Circle jerk for the masses. People should be forced to listen to the opinions of others, not revel in their own egotistical views.

[Kanaric]

Fox and the other news channels aren't really propaganda, they're just biased and report what they think people will watch, instead of reliable information.

Well in the end it has the same effect. However I think cutting someone off the air for showing their side of the story that is contrary with that of the organization should be considered propaganda.

[Stark of Winterfell]

Well in the end it has the same effect. However I think cutting someone off the air for showing their side of the story that is contrary with that of the organization should be considered propaganda.

I don't know, I normally think of propaganda as something a government or organization feeds to the news. But Fox might be making it's own propaganda, I'll have to look up the definition. And it's not surprising that they cut off the people. They take "sound bites" from politicians' speeches to try to twist their words. So cutting people off the make a point is yeah, business as usual. Television news does generally just plain fail as news, except to alert you that something is happening.

[Каие]

The people are ting them selves, 2,000 people dead in one day? The confirmed figure is 134.

[Panzerbear]

The people are ting them selves, 2,000 people dead in one day? The confirmed figure is 134.

not confirmed figure. the fully ID'ed bodies are 134. I cant believe we are still having this conversation.

[Kanaric]

It doesn't matter, this was posted on the 13th. Not many people knew what was going on then, these people tried to give their perspective, and fox news cut them off for giving an side of view that wasn't approved.

[Каие]

I believe the fact Georgia started this, but the woman was clearly BSing, just another Nationalist.

[Kanaric]

That is not the point... who cares what her opinions are? They were brought on to show the perspective of people who lived there and they were cut off for their opinions and what they saw.

Like I said, this video was posted int he 13th, it could of been shown on the air that day or earlier. They cut off people for showing a view contrary to what was decided to be true by Rupert Murdoch, that is the point of this thread. Whether or not that you agree with her opinion isn't the point. What did you KNOW about this conflict on the 13th? The point of the news is to inform the populace, who do you ask about it aside from the people who were there? These people WERE there so they are a good source of information and they were denied.

It just goes to show that they were biased against Russia from the start and refused to show any information that could back up their idea for invasion and therefore REFUSED to report news....

[Kanaric]

not confirmed figure. the fully ID'ed bodies are 134. I cant believe we are still having this conversation.

Its funny, because I can't know which of you is right due to the fact that Rome could of got his news from this same source who was biased from the start.

Its not even opinion this news, its like they are shaping our perceived reality which can have seriously bad consequences. News has to show all sides, not just one then its just propaganda regardless. Especially when nothing is known, like not much was known about Georgia when this video was posted on the 13th.

[Scar Face]

American news is pretty sickening. In Canada, the news is simply reported, no personal insight, no politics, whatsoever. We don't call the Russians devils, we don't advocate Georgia taking over the break away republics, we don't advocate Russia's intervention, we don't emphasis one particular rumor over another, we simply state what is going on.

[Каие]

not confirmed figure. the fully ID'ed bodies are 134. I cant believe we are still having this conversation.

That is true but Russia has admitted it grossly over estimated deaths. They are not in the tens of thousands, and no where near 2,00 a day. It would be more close to the Lebanon war figure of 1,000 at the greatest stretch.

Look below for the article.
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What did you KNOW about this conflict on the 13th?

I knew that Georgia started a war, and Russia was in the process of finishing it.

The point of the news is to inform the populace, who do you ask about it aside from the people who were there? These people WERE there so they are a good source of information and they were denied.

Now you see the people who are into conspiracy theories and who keep accusing each other of bias etc. will say. We are told they were there, but how do we know? FOX says they were there.

You're also missing the point that FOX did let them tell their point of view including the mad claim that 2,000 died in one day, and the interviewer believed them when they said Georgia started shelling. The commercial break was pretty dodgy though.

Its funny, because I can't know which of you is right due to the fact that Rome could of got his news from this same source who was biased from the start.

I am not a pro-Georgia nut, Georgia is not in the right, here. But neither am I pro Russia, this isn't a conflict to choose sides from, one imperialist government to a smaller imperialist government. I'm pro Ossetia.

By findings are from the Red Cross and Russian government.

Russian prosecutors have announced they are opening criminal cases into the deaths of 133 civilians who they say were killed by Georgian forces.

Interesting article on the whole conflict and the media within it.

[Markas]

The New world order and the Illuminati?

Don't waste my time. I thought you had a point somewhere.

[Kanaric]

The New world order and the Illuminati?

Don't waste my time. I thought you had a point somewhere.

Please don't start trolling because you disagree. Its not a conspiracy, and the fact that you post this makes me question your intelligence and your value as a member of this forum.

See you even see the video and their obvious bias and you throw it into the realms of conspiracy. Its not when its reality. Doesn't it piss you off when you watch news and they don't investigate, that they are just there to advance their political wings agenda?

This type of news is just people stroking their own cocks refusing to listen to any opinion aside from their own. They are showing an OPINION not news, it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories as everyone know thats how it is unless you are an avid dittohead. Only knowing one side of the story is VERY harmful, and onyl wanting to listen to one side and going to it is even worse.

I don't know, I normally think of propaganda as something a government or organization feeds to the news.

Unless they are showing the news that favors the ruling party, which fox does is known to do. Its known that both parties are against this invasion. There is a reason why Fox News is considered a conservative news network and CNN a liberal network.

Its close to propaganda, not exactly.... however when they report on things like Iraq having WMDs and Nuclear Weapons research in a slave like manner then you begin to wonder.

Wait a minute Fox has a couple of people on that blame Georgia and this is Anti Russian propaganda how?

Because they cut them off the air for showing their side of the story?

Suussshhh! The New world Order controlled by the Illuminati are listening! They want to start a World War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Contribute or stop posting here, and read posts before you respond.


Why is it when brits flame their tabloids for reporting non news and sensationalism its the norm, but in the US its some conspiracy?

Think about that before you post, thank you.

[Markas]

Please don't start trolling because you disagree. Its not a conspiracy, and the fact that you post this makes me question your intelligence and your value as a member of this forum.

See you even see the video and their obvious bias and you throw it into the realms of conspiracy. Its not when its reality. Doesn't it piss you off when you watch news and they don't investigate, that they are just there to advance their political wings agenda?

It's Fox news. They pander to the presumed opinions of their viewers, it's how they make money. The majority of their viewers are right-ring americans for whom the cold war prejudices are still very much alive e.g. russia is the big bad wolf.

This type of news is just people stroking their own cocks refusing to listen to any opinion aside from their own. They are showing an OPINION not news, it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories as everyone know thats how it is unless you are an avid dittohead. Only knowing one side of the story is VERY harmful, and onyl wanting to listen to one side and going to it is even worse.

I've had a bucket-load of Alex Jones-esqe morons giving half-baked theories like a world wide conspiracy of shadowy government types blah blah blah. This video is propaganda for that. I do not approve.

Unless they are showing the news that favors the ruling party, which fox does is known to do. Its known that both parties are against this invasion. There is a reason why Fox News is considered a conservative news network and CNN a liberal network.

I suppose they should be state-run media and all have one opinion, then? I would wish media to be objective but there's no law saying they have to be.

Contribute or stop posting here, and read posts before you respond..... or are you incapable of that? I'm guessing your an avid watcher of "opinion" news (ie. non news) like Bill O'reilly, am I correct? This has nothign to do with conspiracies or starting a world war. Stop being an idiot please, you embarass the intelligent posters of this forum.

Think about that before you post, thank you.

You embarass yourself Kanaric with videos from conspiracy theorists, especially from the more rabid ones supported by that blowhard alex Jones.

And incidently, I'll post what I like when I like. If you don't like it, too bad.

[Big War Bird]

Because they cut them off the air for showing their side of the story?

You have heard of commercials right? And you saw were the show came back to them after the commercial right? Right! Right?

I swear stupid people should not be allowed on the internets