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    The speed, effort and timing with which the U.S.A secured the Poland missile deal has done nothing but strengthen the Russian claim that the missiles are aimed as a strategic encirclement and strangulation of Russian sovereign strategic defensive capability.

    N.A.T.O has shown itself to be impotant when it comes to conflicting interests, and the Western nations within N.A.T.O have been shown to be impotent when it comes to reinforcing propoganda so vehemenatly spewed against a strong and capable foe.

    Russia has come out of the shadows with a blatant military operation against a wannabe Western ally, and a case. The West spits the exact same rhetoric it did against Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, China, Zimbabwe etc. The U.S, in the midst of perhaps the worst economic crisis of the last half century, seems fated to threaten war with one of the worlds most energy rich nations, that is already allied to Americas greatest threats, present and future.

    It would seem there are two choices. Either America backs down and concedes that it is no longer the sole, definative superpower of the world, or in the midst of economic meltdown it declares World War Three. If Russia has the balls to draw their bluff.
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    link?


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    Uh no....because Russia is blatantly not a super power, whether America calls the bluff or not.

    This thread fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Uh no....because Russia is blatantly not a super power, whether America calls the bluff or not.

    This thread fail.
    It's not America that calls the bluff Einstein. How ready is your economically castrated, government changing, war fatigued nation ready to back up the rhetoric against a nation like Russia? Like I said, you have two choices if the Russians don't back down.
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    Russian will be just fine in the coming decades. It has deverse economy, a nearly unlimited acsess to resources and a very intellegent citizen base.
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    Wow. PROOF?


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    Quote Originally Posted by duda View Post
    Wow. PROOF?
    Proof of what? He's just making an analyze the way he sees things making viable points on the way.
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    .Czar explodes in the thread in 3...2...1...Boom

    Most of it is true, it was a good test for NATO because something like this hasn't come up, they'll learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eventhorizen View Post
    The speed, effort and timing with which the U.S.A secured the Poland missile deal has done nothing but strengthen the Russian claim that the missiles are aimed as a strategic encirclement and strangulation of Russian sovereign strategic defensive capability.

    N.A.T.O has shown itself to be impotant when it comes to conflicting interests, and the Western nations within N.A.T.O have been shown to be impotent when it comes to reinforcing propoganda so vehemenatly spewed against a strong and capable foe.

    Russia has come out of the shadows with a blatant military operation against a wannabe Western ally, and a case. The West spits the exact same rhetoric it did against Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, China, Zimbabwe etc. The U.S, in the midst of perhaps the worst economic crisis of the last half century, seems fated to threaten war with one of the worlds most energy rich nations, that is already allied to Americas greatest threats, present and future.

    It would seem there are two choices. Either America backs down and concedes that it is no longer the sole, definative superpower of the world, or in the midst of economic meltdown it declares World War Three. If Russia has the balls to draw their bluff.
    You guys sure have a lot of penis envy these days. There is a third choice btw....Vladimir "Pecs" Putin might not get invited to play around with his wood with Bush anymore.

    Go ahead, attack Poland....I dare you!!
    Last edited by Mikelus Trento; August 21, 2008 at 02:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    You guys sure have a lot of penis envy these days. There is a third choice btw....Vladimir (Pecs) Putin might not get invited to play around with his wood with Bush anymore.

    Go ahead, attack Poland....I dare you!!
    I'm not Russian, I'm Scottish.

    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    once they will pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, defeat their mortgage crisis, lick their wounds, they will be just fine... well, besides the 10+ trillion foreign debt they accumulated like a spoiled teenage girl with her dad's credit card.
    So when is the best time to test their resolve?

    Considering that;

    Realist learns how to operate a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    funny you know. People gloat so much about americas economy they dont realize europe , china , japan, russia etc are economically worsing as well, just faster...
    Really....
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    Quote Originally Posted by eventhorizen View Post
    I'm not Russian, I'm Scottish.



    So when is the best time to test their resolve?

    Considering that;
    Do Scots have lots of penis envy then also?

    ps. I am 1/4 Scottish, so this is ok to ask. ahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by eventhorizen View Post
    So when is the best time to test their resolve?
    I'd say give it 10-15 more years, when all BRIC + EU countries pump enough muscle to start openly flipping US the bird. now that would be entertaining to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eventhorizen View Post
    The speed, effort and timing with which the U.S.A secured the Poland missile deal has done nothing but strengthen the Russian claim that the missiles are aimed as a strategic encirclement and strangulation of Russian sovereign strategic defensive capability.

    N.A.T.O has shown itself to be impotant when it comes to conflicting interests, and the Western nations within N.A.T.O have been shown to be impotent when it comes to reinforcing propoganda so vehemenatly spewed against a strong and capable foe.

    Russia has come out of the shadows with a blatant military operation against a wannabe Western ally, and a case. The West spits the exact same rhetoric it did against Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, China, Zimbabwe etc. The U.S, in the midst of perhaps the worst economic crisis of the last half century, seems fated to threaten war with one of the worlds most energy rich nations, that is already allied to Americas greatest threats, present and future.

    It would seem there are two choices. Either America backs down and concedes that it is no longer the sole, definative superpower of the world, or in the midst of economic meltdown it declares World War Three. If Russia has the balls to draw their bluff.
    I would actually agree with your analysis. The only thing to mention here is that USA is not decaying just yet. once they will pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, defeat their mortgage crisis, lick their wounds, they will be just fine... well, besides the 10+ trillion foreign debt they accumulated like a spoiled teenage girl with her dad's credit card.

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    Optimist learns English.
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    Realist learns how to operate a Kalashnikov assault rifle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    You guys sure have a lot of penis envy these days.

    Go ahead, attack Poland....I dare you!!
    and conquer all of its potato fields! who the cares about Poland?

    it is Artctic oil reserves that we are all after . conquering Poland is out of style and is sooooo 1930s .
    Last edited by Panzerbear; August 21, 2008 at 02:35 PM.

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    I don't get why people think NATO or the US is impotent for not starting World War 3 over a tiny sliver of bloodied Caucasus land. We kicked around the Russian dog that was Serbia and the Russians didn't just go AHHHHHHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND and fire ze missiles. Not to mention there is such a thing as a pendulum's swing. Russia was the lethargic old man of Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union before Putin arrived.

    It feels like such a recommendation would be that if someone insulted your manhood, you should take out a gun and threaten to shoot them.
    Last edited by Ahiga; August 21, 2008 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobolini View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    and conquer all of its potato fields! who the cares about Poland?

    it is Artctic oil reserves that we are all after . conquering Poland is out of style and is sooooo 1930s .
    Potato fields? Not Poland, let's see, not Slovakia, Czech Rep. is what you want for potatos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    I would actually agree with your analysis. The only thing to mention here is that USA is not decaying just yet. once they will pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, defeat their mortgage crisis, lick their wounds, they will be just fine... well, besides the 10+ trillion foreign debt they accumulated like a spoiled teenage girl with her dad's credit card.

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    Realist learns how to operate a Kalashnikov assault rifle.



    and conquer all of its potato fields! who the cares about Poland?

    it is Artctic oil reserves that we are all after . conquering Poland is out of style and is sooooo 1930s .
    Obviously the Russian leadership enjpys making threats for whatever reasos it has.

    How is one or two or whatever Patriot anti-missile batteries going to be a threat to Russia!????????!

    Answer, they're not. So, Russia issimply blowing off steam since they do not control Eastern Europe and other regions as they did during the days of the USSR and the Tsars.

    Wasn't the Soviet liberation and then occupation and dictorial control of Eastern Europe after WWII enough, not to mention Russia's complicity with the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Prussians in the Partitioning of Poland in the 1700's???

    If Russia strikes Poland the Poles and the rest of the Europeans and NATO would create some major havoc with Russia, and Russia knows this and is now just blowing hot air for pride's sake.

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    funny you know. People gloat so much about americas economy they dont realize europe , china , japan, russia etc are economically worsing as well, just faster...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    funny you know. People gloat so much about americas economy they dont realize europe , china , japan, russia etc are economically worsing as well, just faster...
    please do elaborate, humor us all .

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