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    Icon5 Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    I noticed this as soon as I started to play 4.1, back then I'd been a cheater since R:TW, I've been sober 2 months . But I used to start my game as the Scots by rushing down, bribing all along the way, but even with my 2-8 million florins, first turn York, not even a town, wouldn't accept a bribe, and they're rebels , is there any way I can change the overall disposition towards accepting a bribe (Oh and I also used to steal the Byzantine and Russian generals so they could become governors ), and if it's possible, can I remove the stupid 'You've already performed one mission this turn'

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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    you can cheat by give_trait and give the traits
    SmoothTalker 3 30% more chance at bribing and Secretive 3 10% more chance
    Of course this is cheating
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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    you can cheat by give_trait and give the traits
    SmoothTalker 3 30% more chance at bribing and Secretive 3 10% more chance
    Of course this is cheating

    sorry did not no I already posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    if it's possible, can I remove the stupid 'You've already performed one mission this turn'
    Use the character reset cheat: character_reset "<Character Name>"

    Without cheating you could use spies to increase the unrest in the city, not sure if it actually have an effect as I haven't bribed a city for a while. Might not work on rebel cities either.

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    Yes I will say it is to expensive to bribe. I remember in rtw there was a nice ballance with one of the patches.
    It cost about the same to bribe an army (you could recruit) as building it yourself. And as the romans I had a lot of of bribed barbarian family members.

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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    Bribing is insanely difficult, I have 200.000 and still allmost nobody wants to be bribed, and whenver one of my diplomats does get good at being a diplomat or bribing, het gets some religious trait making him crap again.

    Assasins are crap too compared to the old version, I wanted the Irish Island, but didn't want a long war that would piss of the pope, normally I'd send 3 spies (one for each settlement to find familly members) and then I send an assasin or 3 to take out most of the familly tree, next I take the settlment witht he faction leader (and any still living familly members) to make the entire faction go rebel in one battle. I needed about 15 Assasins for 4 lords and 2 prinsesses and my assasins would have failed if I didn't have the patience to save and reaload 23 times because my assasins kept failing and getting killed.

    Als I have an azerty keyboard and still haven't figured out wich key opens the console.

    I had a perfect plan in my mind, that encompasses bribing all of the iberian peninsula (I make plenty of money) and then just send an army of assasins to the remaining portugese and castillian capital to turn them rebel. I'm allied to both and want the Iberian peninsula but I don't want a war that makes me attack my allies, so if something can be done to make bribing easy again...
    An answer would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara View Post

    Assasins are crap too compared to the old version, I wanted the Irish Island, but didn't want a long war that would piss of the pope, normally I'd send 3 spies (one for each settlement to find familly members) and then I send an assasin or 3 to take out most of the familly tree, next I take the settlment witht he faction leader (and any still living familly members) to make the entire faction go rebel in one battle. I needed about 15 Assasins for 4 lords and 2 prinsesses and my assasins would have failed if I didn't have the patience to save and reaload 23 times because my assasins kept failing and getting killed.
    lol, i was lucky and they were all in the capital, so just one quick sige saw to all of their blood line, and indeed their faction

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara View Post

    I had a perfect plan in my mind, that encompasses bribing all of the iberian peninsula (I make plenty of money) and then just send an army of assasins to the remaining portugese and castillian capital to turn them rebel. I'm allied to both and want the Iberian peninsula but I don't want a war that makes me attack my allies, so if something can be done to make bribing easy again...
    An answer would be great
    Haha yeah for fun I went into an Aragon campaign, and edited all the titles/names so its all adapted to Spanish. I then assassinated the Leon-Castille King/prince, which destroyed the faction and took all of the lands, bribed their former generals. This led to a early "unified" Spanish Empire of my own. :

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    If I allow myself to cheat, I go overboard, DON'T JUDGE ME !!! Does anyone know how to, say edit a descr to make the next to worthless York, be bribable for less than one-point-four mill-ion florins (Pinky finger to corner of mouth) or even bribable at all, I tried to bribe Caernarvon once in a game as the English (Yes I took a bath in boiling water afterwards) and i had 6-7 million florins, and the Welsh even like rebelling themselves !

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    I believe one would have to go overboard when 'giving' the diplomat traits of course, this works every so often. Ya gotta give him these traits...

    -GoodDiplomat 5
    -NaturalDiplomatSkill 3
    -ReligiousTolerance 3
    -Multilingual 3
    -Secretive 3 (This ones important, it increases bribe chance by about...15% max)
    -BraveDiplomat 3

    And of course the most important one...

    -SmoothTalker 3

    Even if one entered all those cheats, there'd still be those 'splinter' settlements which refuse to fall to bribery...(Caernarvon!)

    Of course you could always edit the 'descr_character_traits' file to maximize the influence or success of a bribery, but of course thats even shadier than cheating...
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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    Thank you for the full answer, but I was looking to edit some descr thing to make it more likely, I'm just not sure how to do it? I play as multiple factions so I can disable cheats, so there is no temptation Oh and can someone also tell me how to increase the growth rate of cities, Banzais AOR mod makes me eager to field Irish Muire, Scottish Pikemen and English Longbowmen on the same side against, say... The French?
    Last edited by Pious Agnost; August 22, 2008 at 07:04 PM.

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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    The guy I always wanted to be "bribable" is El Cid of Valencia. He had a history of being a mercenary, we should be able to get him for some sane amount of gold.

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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    I just killed him Stupid rebels

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    Default Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    I can't imagine a better guy to lead my armies to reclaim whole Spain than El Cid....

    I remember reading that somebody managed to get him for 900k.

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    El Cid is the Spanish William Wallace, In MT2W epic proportions at least.

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    Icon11 Re: Increasing the likelyhood of a bribe?

    Funny you should mention William Wallace, for it was old Willy who killed El Cid when I was getting a foothold in Iberia to kick out the Moors in my Scots VH/VH

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