Dockyards, Merchant Quarters, Dirt Roads

[Stark of Winterfell]

I've noticed that Dockyards, Merchant Quarters, and Dirt Roads don't give trade bonuses beyond their predecessor structures (or in Dirt Roads, none at all). After looking at the online stat database, I see why that is, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

For example, the Great Market and Merchants Quarter both have "'trade_base_income_bonus bonus 4". If I made the Merchants Quarter have "trade_base_income_bonus bonus 5" instead, would that work? Or would I have to define "trade_base_income_bonus bonus 5" somewhere? Same with Dockyards.

For Roads, if I gave Dirt Roads "road_level 1", Paved Roads "road_level 2", and Highways "road_level 3", would that work?

If these changes are the right ones to make, and I make them, will it affect my current campaigns in any way (go into effect immediately, cause problems, etc).

And finally, does anyone know why these buildings don't give the advertised trade increases already?

[Quark]

Stark of Winterfell
:hmmm:Where to start. When playing the game, limiting the cash available to the player is essential, or the game becomes to easy. One of the changes KK made was to remove 'trade_base_income_bonus' from dirt roads and move everything up one stage. To add this back in again just look at paved roads and copy 'trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1' on to dirt roads, then edit other values to 2 and 3.

Merchants Quarter: well the advantage they give is more merchants eg agent_limit merchant 2, so the extra cash is generated that way.

Dockyards: Cities on coasts have a huge income advantage as it is, so if I was going to increase anything it would be trade fleets. The advantage for the player is building bigger and better fleets.


Any changes to the EDB happen in game and do not require a new campaign.

[dopp]

Dockyards do give an extra trade fleet, which provides a massive increase in income (something like 40% per trade fleet I think). IMHO the dockyards don't even need the bonus in trade goods at all to be the best economic building in the game.

[Stark of Winterfell]

It says that the path and file name are not correct when I try to save the changes...

[Wolfgrin]

Dockyards do give an extra trade fleet, which provides a massive increase in income (something like 40% per trade fleet I think). IMHO the dockyards don't even need the bonus in trade goods at all to be the best economic building in the game.

You're describing DockLANDS. Dockyards do not provide another trade fleet. It breaks out this way:

Port = One trade route
Merchant's Wharf = Two trade routes
Warehouse = Three trade routes
Docklands = Four trade routes

Shipwrights and Dockyards give a slight boost to trade goods only (and of course better war ships.)

[delra]

You say "slight" bonus.

Isn't the bonus the same all the time, +10% per each "increase in tradeable goods"?

[Wolfgrin]

You could be right, Delra. I just know that your trade will not take a big leap after completing a Shipwright or Dockyard. With wharf, warehouse and docklands, the increase is huge.

[chewy]

merchant quarters also give "Prominant Family Ties" trait which boosts merchants even more.

[Ven0m1985]

I don't know about the other versions of the game because I only have M2TW not kingdoms but mines don't produce income is there a hot fix for this?

[Wolfcp11]

I don't know about the other versions of the game because I only have M2TW not kingdoms but mines don't produce income is there a hot fix for this?

why are you in the SS forums then

[dopp]

Sorry, yes I was describing docklands, not dockyards.

[Prankowski]

i guess he is here because he plays stainless steel as we all do.
there are different versions around of SS, i think the 4.x of them is for the main game without the kingdoms add-on.

@venom: maybe the SS FAQ can help you. as i assume that you have a 4.x version
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110632

[Nightbringer]

hey stark! I love that series, great name! looks like your question has been answered though

[Thermal]

the export_descr_building may only say theres no bonus 4 paved roads after dirt roads, but i notice the differece, my income goes up tons when i build paved roads, especially in rich areas

[Nightbringer]

i dont think thats what they ment, i think they ment that there was no difference with dirt roads, and that there is with paved and highway, but that it is a less dramatic change than it used to be

[Thermal]

meh, there cheap enough, who cares
jst hav 2 work ur way past the dirt road leavl quick then