Russian army seize more Georgians/equipment

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

They lied, AGAIN! They were supposed to withdrawal and keep the ceasefire, and then they sieze Georgian soldiers, and their equipment? WTF?!!! Right now, I am feeling very anti-Russia. All they have done since the beginning of the conflict is lie. That seems to be the only thing the Kremlin is good at doing.

[Kiljan Arslan]

um link to article?

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1219...fox_australian

[Kiljan Arslan]

I say we need to train the Georgians in irregular warfare.

[Ishoss]

I say we need to train the Georgians in irregular warfare.

Lol, yupsers. Give them a reason to target the public. Will be great, headlines "Russia bombs urba area: We were bombing insurgents! Russian general says."

[EmperoRu]

I say we need to train the Georgians in irregular warfare.

You that quite whether that, if BBBush will teach Georgian to guerilla warfare, from this not khuya will not go out, because Sukashvilli then will America tear to pieces a bum as Benladen!!!

[EmperoRu]

I say we need to train the Georgians in irregular warfare.

You that quite whether that, if BBBush will teach Georgian to guerilla warfare, from this not khuya will not go out, because Sukashvilli then will you tear to pieces a bum as Benladen!!!

[Kiljan Arslan]

Yeah and look how well that defense works when my country says so for Iraq.

[Ishoss]

Yeah and look how well that defense works when my country says so for Iraq.

Yeah, it works perfectly. We'd all want the same to happen in Georgia...

[Nersus]

Your Mass media ( Wall street CNN) and others are all corrupt and administration Of your countries tell s them what to print
Little facts
(maybe little mistake in crhonology but all this is FACTS that can be proved not only buy the words of Russians)
08.08.2008
00:30 Georgia start massive assult on capital of South Osetia, using heavy artillery "Grad" and heavy mine throuwers (they attacking not an army base its a city!)

After some time Georgian Specnaz and tanks enter the city

around 14:00 -15:00 most part of city lied in ruins Georgian troops captured most of Cxhinval battle is for center of the city
And its the place of headquaters of Russian peacmakers, its beeing constantly attacked by
Georgians, heavy casualties inflicted many dead.....
And all this time there is NOTHING in Washington Post NOTHING on CNN
absolutly NOTHING

Russian citizen are duying in thousands, peace makers armed only with ligth rifles (Kalasnikov) and heaving only ligth armor vs all migth of reformed and retraind by USA Georgian army....

58 Russian Army enter S.O. to support our PEACE makers Saakasvily says that if info about Russian tanks is true he will deckare war on Russia
well when our tanks enter Cxhinval Georgians start reatreting

And this is moment when your Mass media final spot all this but what they start to tell? About genoside of osetins? about civil city ruined bu Gerogian army? about 350 peacmakes surrounded and slaughted by 2500 georgian troops?

No.... not a word about this.... instead

RUSSIA ATTACKS GEORGIA!!!
RUSSIA WANT TO CAPTURE GEORGIA!!
RUSSIAN TANKS IN THE WAY TO TBILISY!!
BLA BLA BLA!!!!

And you Say you need to train Georgians better? for what? to better kill civilians? to better stomp childs and oldmans with tanks?
All see USA hand behind all this And if there is a GOD somethere USA will answear for its crimes
I wish so

[attilavolciak07]

Your Mass media ( Wall street CNN) and others are all corrupt and administration Of your countries tell s them what to print
Little facts
(maybe little mistake in crhonology but all this is FACTS that can be proved not only buy the words of Russians)
08.08.2008
00:30 Georgia start massive assult on capital of South Osetia, using heavy artillery "Grad" and heavy mine throuwers (they attacking not an army base its a city!)

After some time Georgian Specnaz and tanks enter the city

around 14:00 -15:00 most part of city lied in ruins Georgian troops captured most of Cxhinval battle is for center of the city
And its the place of headquaters of Russian peacmakers, its beeing constantly attacked by
Georgians, heavy casualties inflicted many dead.....
And all this time there is NOTHING in Washington Post NOTHING on CNN
absolutly NOTHING

Russian citizen are duying in thousands, peace makers armed only with ligth rifles (Kalasnikov) and heaving only ligth armor vs all migth of reformed and retraind by USA Georgian army....

58 Russian Army enter S.O. to support our PEACE makers Saakasvily says that if info about Russian tanks is true he will deckare war on Russia
well when our tanks enter Cxhinval Georgians start reatreting

And this is moment when your Mass media final spot all this but what they start to tell? About genoside of osetins? about civil city ruined bu Gerogian army? about 350 peacmakes surrounded and slaughted by 2500 georgian troops?

No.... not a word about this.... instead

RUSSIA ATTACKS GEORGIA!!!
RUSSIA WANT TO CAPTURE GEORGIA!!
RUSSIAN TANKS IN THE WAY TO TBILISY!!
BLA BLA BLA!!!!

And you Say you need to train Georgians better? for what? to better kill civilians? to better stomp childs and oldmans with tanks?
All see USA hand behind all this And if there is a GOD somethere USA will answear for its crimes
I wish so

You do make a good point, this conflict has brought back the Russian steriotype. I support Georgia in this conflict but I know Georgia started it, but Russia shouldn't go into Georgia proper.

[Nersus]

You do make a good point, this conflict has brought back the Russian steriotype. I support Georgia in this conflict but I know Georgia started it, but Russia shouldn't go into Georgia proper.

Proper? not a single tank goes from South Osetia into Georgia plains were bombing only militry targets navy was not attacking any targets but ones that were breach emm.... demilitry zone of Abhazia

I was tracking actions in SO very clossely not only by media, I myself Live in Caucasus in Karachaevo Cherkessia republic, we have border with Georgia, I was In vladicavkaz (capital of North Osetia) I saw people from South osetia, I hear what they say

I'm sorry that we didn't kill Saakasvily already he desarves no less

[attilavolciak07]

And you Say you need to train Georgians better? for what? to better kill civilians? to better stomp childs and oldmans with tanks?
All see USA hand behind all this And if there is a GOD somethere USA will answear for its crimes
I wish so

You do have to understand the Russian media is not the best source to get info from. Tales of genocide, 'stomping people with tanks' are obviously farce!

PS, check these out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Gori
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Poti

[Nersus]

You do have to understand the Russian media is not the best source to get info from. Tales of genocide, 'stomping people with tanks' are obviously farce!

PS, check these out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Gori
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Poti

Read my previus post

I WAS SPEAKING with the people from osetia you sertanly can say if people lie by their eyes
I saw eyes of a mother whos 8 years dauther was killd by Georgian soldier

Only thing that is left from her is head....

when you see such things by your own eyes its become very very hard to understand USA politics( and their Georgian pet)

[Bobolini]

Your Mass media ( Wall street CNN) and others are all corrupt and administration Of your countries tell s them what to print
Little facts
(maybe little mistake in crhonology but all this is FACTS that can be proved not only buy the words of Russians)
08.08.2008
00:30 Georgia start massive assult on capital of South Osetia, using heavy artillery "Grad" and heavy mine throuwers (they attacking not an army base its a city!)

After some time Georgian Specnaz and tanks enter the city

around 14:00 -15:00 most part of city lied in ruins Georgian troops captured most of Cxhinval battle is for center of the city
And its the place of headquaters of Russian peacmakers, its beeing constantly attacked by
Georgians, heavy casualties inflicted many dead.....
And all this time there is NOTHING in Washington Post NOTHING on CNN
absolutly NOTHING

Russian citizen are duying in thousands, peace makers armed only with ligth rifles (Kalasnikov) and heaving only ligth armor vs all migth of reformed and retraind by USA Georgian army....

58 Russian Army enter S.O. to support our PEACE makers Saakasvily says that if info about Russian tanks is true he will deckare war on Russia
well when our tanks enter Cxhinval Georgians start reatreting

And this is moment when your Mass media final spot all this but what they start to tell? About genoside of osetins? about civil city ruined bu Gerogian army? about 350 peacmakes surrounded and slaughted by 2500 georgian troops?

No.... not a word about this.... instead

RUSSIA ATTACKS GEORGIA!!!
RUSSIA WANT TO CAPTURE GEORGIA!!
RUSSIAN TANKS IN THE WAY TO TBILISY!!
BLA BLA BLA!!!!

And you Say you need to train Georgians better? for what? to better kill civilians? to better stomp childs and oldmans with tanks?
All see USA hand behind all this And if there is a GOD somethere USA will answear for its crimes
I wish so

Get off the crackpipe! Another USA phobateer! Where do you people come from?

[alhoon]

They lied, AGAIN! They were supposed to withdrawal and keep the ceasefire, and then they sieze Georgian soldiers, and their equipment? WTF?!!! Right now, I am feeling very anti-Russia. All they have done since the beginning of the conflict is lie. That seems to be the only thing the Kremlin is good at doing.

It's very, very bad that they captured Georgian soldiers. It paints Russians in even darker light.

But technically they didn't violate the cease fire. Was it legal according to the cease fire? Yes. Was it honorable? No. Such things only pull the two countries further appart.

However SPQR Praetorian I would remind you that Russian Goverment so far has lied less than Georgian Goverment (that is 85% lies instead of 90% lies. )
Remember that according to what Georgian goverment has been telling us... Poti was destroyed daaaays ago.

What I find very, very hard to accept and angers me is the powerplay Russia does on the back of Georgians. She's angry with NATO? She captures soldiers to show off. Saying like a small child: "So, you take decisions that harm my diplomatic relations?! Take that!"

Pitiful.

[attilavolciak07]

They stole US Humvees as well.

[Princeps]

They stole US Humvees as well.

US humvees?

Georgia has humvees as well.

[Cicero2]

It was there while training, they were supposed to be returned.

"After exchanging prisoners with Georgia, Russian troops took about 20 Georgians prisoner after briefly retaking the oil port of Poti, blindfolded them and held them at gunpoint. Russia also sank another Georgian navy vessel and stole four U.S. Humvees that had been used in U.S.-Georgian training exercises and were waiting to be shipped out of the country."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1219...googlenews_wsj

Does anyone know where China's stand is on this situation?

[Mikelus Trento]

They stole US Humvees as well.

Maybe they just "borrowed" them?

Do you think they know how to operate them? The picture I saw they were towing them.