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    Bulgars 5th and 6th century

    Any insight of the Bulgar faction during this time will be appreciated


    Zilant Banner?


    The Utigurs were a Hunno-Bulgar tribe that followed and participated with the Huns in their expansions North East of the Black Sea and across the Danube.

    Hunno-Bulgar Kutrigurs, from the western Hunnic empire, also played a major role along with the Utigurs in the Huns military successes.

    After the death of Attila, The Bulgar's were a very formidable people. The Utigurs who the Mod portrays settled and controlled a large region on the N.E. region of the Black Sea.

    In 632, Kubrat united the Kutrigur and Utigur tribes who had been separated under the domain of the Avars.


    credited info... great work here on the first url by :Потребителски профил NikeBG on our TWC forums
    http://nauka.bg/forum/index.php?showtopic=375
    Hunno-Bulgar Military Ranking
    http://www.kutriguri.com/about_body_military.html

    Not sure but need a warlord : Bagatur
    -Bagatur - (Turkic) – literally “brave man”. Title, given by the Bulgars to the representatives of the aristocracy, which have glorified themselves in battles.
    -Bagain – Lower noble rank, the so called “fed people” of the khan, used by the khan’s authority for restriction of the boils influence. The backbone of the armoured cavalry
    -Boila-tarkan (vulias-tarkan) - (Bulgar) – Title, given in the Bulgarian Khanate to a governor of a big border region.Bulgar title.
    - Chigot Bagain = A military commander of swordsmen.
    - Irchirgu = An archer.



    names
    Kubrat
    Batbayan
    Asparuh
    Kutrigur (western Bulgar tribe) leaders:
    Kutrigur (490s-510s)
    Khinialon (Chinialus) (540s-551)
    Sinnion (Synion) (551-550s)
    Zabergan (550s-582)
    Gostun (582-584)
    Utigur (eastern Bulgar tribe) leaders:
    Uturgur (490s-510s)
    Grod (520-528)
    Mugel (528-530)
    Sandilch (Sandil) (540s-560s)
    Onogundur (federation of Kutrigurs and Utigurs) leaders:
    Houdbaad (Hudbaad, Khudbard) (c.581-c.600)
    Organa (Organ, Ornag; uncle and regent over the Onogundurs (617-630) of Kubrat)
    From other sources (from the times the raiding period):
    Buzan (Bulgar chieftain around 488)
    Bulger and Drong (Bulgar leaders around 538)
    Odolgan (around 546)
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    Hi!
    About the banner - the zilant dragon was (and is) indeed in the CoA of Kazan (in Volga Bulgaria), but I'm not sure if it was used by all Bulgars at such an early stage (though there's also a theory that a dragon is depicted on the ring of a Danubian Bulgarian tsar from the beginning of the 13th century too). Not much is known in details about the Bulgars in their Pagan period, especially 5th and 6th centuries, but what we know from the responses of Pope Nicholas I to Khan/Kniaz/Tsar Boris I is that the Bulgars used a horse-tail (bunchuk) as a military banner. Another possible banner and very widely used symbol is this one: IYI, which is believed to represent the power of the Sky-God and his representative, the khan. An example is the horseman here (the flag being possibly inspired by this ancient graffiti) and also seen on the Pliska rosette.
    Btw, I've read that on Turkic the groups of Kutrigur/Kuturgur translate to "wandering people" (nomads), while Utigur/Uturgur - to "sitting/settled people". So it would be fitting if the Kutrigurs are more nomadic, while the Utigurs are more settled, possibly even with some differences in ethnic composition (which also explains the somewhat different burial rituals).



    Btw, here's an old collection of Bulgar personal names that I had found some years ago:
    Alzek
    Anzi
    Apskhih
    Asparukh (Isperikh, Ispor)
    Bars
    Bataul
    Batoya
    Batulia
    Bayan (Bezmer, Batbayan, Boyan)
    Boris
    Bulger
    Buzan
    Chepa
    Dizeng
    Dometa
    Dristar
    Drong
    Dukum
    Elemag
    Eskhach
    Goleda
    Gostun
    Grigora
    Grod
    Guar
    Houdbaad (Hudbaad, Khudbard)
    Iratais
    Isbul
    Kano
    Karan
    Kardam
    Khinialon (Chinialus)
    Kordil
    Kormesiy
    Kormisosh
    Korsis (Okors)
    Kotrag
    Krum
    Kuber
    Kubrat (Kurt, Kuvrat, Krovat)
    Kutrigur
    Magotin
    Malamir
    Marmais
    Mugel
    Odolgan
    Okhsun (Okhsi)
    Omurtag
    Onegavon
    Organa (Organ, Ornag)
    Oshi
    Ostro
    Pagan
    Praksa
    Pressian
    Rassate
    Sabin (Savin)
    Sandilch (Sandil)
    Sevar
    Shilke (female?)
    Sigritsis
    Silke (female?)
    Sinnion (Synion)
    Slavnas
    Sondoke
    Stazis
    Tarasiy
    Taridin (Tiradin)
    Telec
    Telerig
    Tervel
    Toktu
    Tsog
    Tsul
    Tuk
    Turdacis
    Umor
    Uturgur
    Vanand
    Vardan
    Venda
    Vetam
    Vinekh
    Yani
    Zabergan
    Zenti
    Zvinitsis

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    Default Re: The Bulgars 5th 6th Century

    Quote Originally Posted by NikeBG View Post
    Hi!
    About the banner - the zilant dragon was (and is) indeed in the CoA of Kazan (in Volga Bulgaria), but I'm not sure if it was used by all Bulgars at such an early stage (though there's also a theory that a dragon is depicted on the ring of a Danubian Bulgarian tsar from the beginning of the 13th century too). Not much is known in details about the Bulgars in their Pagan period, especially 5th and 6th centuries, but what we know from the responses of Pope Nicholas I to Khan/Kniaz/Tsar Boris I is that the Bulgars used a horse-tail (bunchuk) as a military banner. Another possible banner and very widely used symbol is this one: IYI, which is believed to represent the power of the Sky-God and his representative, the khan. An example is the horseman here (the flag being possibly inspired by this ancient graffiti) and also seen on the Pliska rosette.
    Btw, I've read that on Turkic the groups of Kutrigur/Kuturgur translate to "wandering people" (nomads), while Utigur/Uturgur - to "sitting/settled people". So it would be fitting if the Kutrigurs are more nomadic, while the Utigurs are more settled, possibly even with some differences in ethnic composition (which also explains the somewhat different burial rituals).



    Btw, here's an old collection of Bulgar personal names that I had found some years ago:
    Alzek
    Anzi
    Apskhih
    Asparukh (Isperikh, Ispor)
    Bars
    Bataul
    Batoya
    Batulia
    Bayan (Bezmer, Batbayan, Boyan)
    Boris
    Bulger
    Buzan
    Chepa
    Dizeng
    Dometa
    Dristar
    Drong
    Dukum
    Elemag
    Eskhach
    Goleda
    Gostun
    Grigora
    Grod
    Guar
    Houdbaad (Hudbaad, Khudbard)
    Iratais
    Isbul
    Kano
    Karan
    Kardam
    Khinialon (Chinialus)
    Kordil
    Kormesiy
    Kormisosh
    Korsis (Okors)
    Kotrag
    Krum
    Kuber
    Kubrat (Kurt, Kuvrat, Krovat)
    Kutrigur
    Magotin
    Malamir
    Marmais
    Mugel
    Odolgan
    Okhsun (Okhsi)
    Omurtag
    Onegavon
    Organa (Organ, Ornag)
    Oshi
    Ostro
    Pagan
    Praksa
    Pressian
    Rassate
    Sabin (Savin)
    Sandilch (Sandil)
    Sevar
    Shilke (female?)
    Sigritsis
    Silke (female?)
    Sinnion (Synion)
    Slavnas
    Sondoke
    Stazis
    Tarasiy
    Taridin (Tiradin)
    Telec
    Telerig
    Tervel
    Toktu
    Tsog
    Tsul
    Tuk
    Turdacis
    Umor
    Uturgur
    Vanand
    Vardan
    Venda
    Vetam
    Vinekh
    Yani
    Zabergan
    Zenti
    Zvinitsis
    Welcome NikeBG!
    Awesome...and very interesting

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