Mongols...

**Creslin_black** · August 18, 2008, 12:07 AM

Hi, I'm searching for a mod that will best allow me to play as the Mongols, in whatever incarnation I can (Golden Horde, etc.) Are the Mongols paid better attention in this mod than in Deus Lo Vult? Don't get me wrong, Deus Lo Vult is a great mod for what it tries to do, which is give the game more of an RPG feel, but almost no work whatsoever was done in that mod on making the Mongols feel like actual Mongols and not cookie-cutter crap units and generic culture/buildings. Broken Crescent seems to do an ok job on the Mongols, at least more so than DLV, but again you can't play them at all in the campaign and the focus is definitely not on them. So, does Stainless Steel do the Mongols justice in the campaign?

**Bacon!** · August 18, 2008, 01:13 AM

You can play as the Golden Horde in the late era campaign but not early, i think they use the vanilla rooster and are still Islamic. However there are a few sub mods that people have made that changes the Golden Horde

Mongol Improvement Mod

**obbob** · August 18, 2008, 01:54 AM

to be honest, Im a mongol fan as well, and you should really edit their export descr unit file, specifically the unit pool refill rate.

I say this because without increasing these rates, the Mongols will pretty much die after about 20-30 turns, once their massive starting armies die out. On average, their pools take about twice as long to refill

**Creslin_black** · August 18, 2008, 02:23 PM

Well, the mongol improvement mod sounds a bit promising, but I also wanted general changes to the appearance of the faction I guess, like skins and stuff. I almost think that I'm going to have to go back to Medieval 1 to get the kind of experience I'm looking for, or even The Mongol Invasion expansion for Shogun. I guess I'm just looking for a much more Eastern experience with the Mongols, not this feeling that they're a tacked-on reason for creating invading stacks. Broken Crescent was kinda sorta headed in the direction I was looking for regarding the Mongols, but the Mongols are only playable in custom battles, no campaign, and anyway almost no work seems to have gone into their faction again.

I wonder if somehow I could get the music from the Mongol Invasion into the game, assuming that I was using Stainless Steel?

and

If I don't like the skins at all for the Mongols, (if they haven't been changed or reskinned from the default) is there any way I can get my hands on better skins and insert them, and if so, how?

**Creslin_black** · August 18, 2008, 02:25 PM

Oh, also, this will go under a different thread, but I've had no end of trouble with getting Stainless Steel to work under Steam, so if someone could point me in the direction of a definitive guide to getting it to work with Steam that would be VERY much appreciated.

**midnite** · August 18, 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Creslin_black

Well, the mongol improvement mod sounds a bit promising, but I also wanted general changes to the appearance of the faction I guess, like skins and stuff. I almost think that I'm going to have to go back to Medieval 1 to get the kind of experience I'm looking for, or even The Mongol Invasion expansion for Shogun. I guess I'm just looking for a much more Eastern experience with the Mongols, not this feeling that they're a tacked-on reason for creating invading stacks. Broken Crescent was kinda sorta headed in the direction I was looking for regarding the Mongols, but the Mongols are only playable in custom battles, no campaign, and anyway almost no work seems to have gone into their faction again.

I wonder if somehow I could get the music from the Mongol Invasion into the game, assuming that I was using Stainless Steel?

and

If I don't like the skins at all for the Mongols, (if they haven't been changed or reskinned from the default) is there any way I can get my hands on better skins and insert them, and if so, how?

If you are looking for new skins I recommend these. Vlad has some excellent skins and they work with the ss units. I use them. Some of my mongol screenshots are posted in the screenshot section. Page 73
Good luck

**Ale** · August 18, 2008, 02:32 PM

Here are new skins for the Mongols: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1651

But I don't know if it is compatible with SS

**Creslin_black** · August 18, 2008, 04:54 PM

Well that might help, if I could first get Stainless Steel running.

**obbob** · August 19, 2008, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Ale

Here are new skins for the Mongols: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1651

But I don't know if it is compatible with SS

LOL it is in SS

**gracul** · August 18, 2008, 05:26 PM

Just run SS using the launcher provided by CA.
When youve got the launcher open, click on play and then select Stainless Steel.

**Creslin_black** · August 18, 2008, 08:29 PM

Normally that solution works for other people, but in my case whenever I tried that it would either crash instantly or it wouldn't run at all, or it would run the regular medieval 2 vanilla game.

**Ale** · August 19, 2008, 03:34 AM

Are you sure? I didn't had these skins ...

**obbob** · August 19, 2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Ale

Are you sure? I didn't had these skins ...

Thats strange. I re-installed SS ALOT of times and every time i get those skins, but i usually overwrite it with another, different skin.

So whenever i reinstall i have to overwrite.

Maybe you should try reinstalling, since im 100% sure that those skins are included. Download Y2Y and yellowdog's visual improvement mod even changes the unit cards to show units in those skins

**Lupus** · August 19, 2008, 08:44 AM

@ Creslin_black

Have a look at this mod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100492. It is called Custom Campaign Mod 1.02 by Unspoken Knight. Quote: "Alternative Grand Campaign: The Grand Campaign with modifications to support playable Aztecs, Mongols, Timurids and Rebels." and much more...

Hope this helps...