How Quick Can You Win?

[Andy B]

hey all i was just checking threads out on the totalwar forums, this guy looks darn good lol check it out.

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...49#post1960049

[Lord Anubis]

It won't load.

edit: the org doesn't work for me at all weird.

[Andy B]

hrm weird, it works for me. copy the link into ur address bar that has to work.

edit: aha unlucky =[

[duda]

ing insane...I did something similar with the julii once...beat the game at 251 BC...

[zligor]

Unbelievable. 106 provinces in 23 turns

[Lord Anubis]

In 23 turns? Holy .

[Poach]

That's just.....insane. Can you imagine if his friends play this game? Round their house one day, just be like "So guys, think I can get 106 provinces in one night?", imagine the look on their faces 23 turns (a few hours gametime if he ends up with that many provinces that quickly, ya think?) later, with the full map!

[Double A]

The Aztecs don't stand a chance...

[Berdiche Knyaz]

23 Turns Motherer

[TheTrueGreek]

that is ungodly, by turn 23 im doing good to have 5 more provinces and thats pushing it

[Double A]

Seriously, I'd be good to have 3 more. (Crusades not included

[Viking Prince]

Without accusing -- I would need to see how this was done. I'm just saying ....

However, my style is more chivalrous with little sacking and no exterminations. I try to not "ATM" the AI excessively to establish trade agreements and the cash is over time. I do not whack an ally nor trade partner.

It takes more time this way, but I still do not see gunpowder. Only tried gunpowder in Shogun and did not really like its use.

[stormbringer951]

I almost never blitz, not after winning a first vanilla campaign so easily. Before this turns into another house rules thread, let me just say that 23 turns is waaay too cool

And gunpowder is much much later. He conquered the old world before gunpowder was even invented.

[TheTrueGreek]

i dont understand how he made that many armies within turn one, its just incredible

[Andy B]

Without accusing -- I would need to see how this was done. I'm just saying ....

However, my style is more chivalrous with little sacking and no exterminations. I try to not "ATM" the AI excessively to establish trade agreements and the cash is over time. I do not whack an ally nor trade partner.

It takes more time this way, but I still do not see gunpowder. Only tried gunpowder in Shogun and did not really like its use.

i dont understand how he made that many armies within turn one, its just incredible

I'm pretty sure he's posted a video showing it aswell. check the link.

edit: nvm its a link to a motorhead song lawl.

[Viking Prince]

I'm pretty sure he's posted a video showing it aswell. check the link.

edit: nvm its a link to a motorhead song lawl.

The post shows the steps that were taken in general. I assume it is all sack and no settlement builds. Jihad gives greater movement. All logical, though not the intended use of the simulation.

He also states that until the end he did not reload. This is where I would need more than his word. Too great a streak of everything working that it defies my belief. Always gets his Man of the Hour Generals in every battle. Ships transport successfully withou "bumping" into an enemy ship. All long odds combats are successful. All conquored settlements do not go into rebellion even when occuppied by only mercenary units. I can go on, but you get the idea.

It is all possible, so yeah it could have been done. This means what? That you can break the game? And this is not a cheat in its own way? Just another example of breaking the programing constraints on AI and not really playing a game though. I think I will pass. And no it is not cool, IMO. Any programmer can rig the results to get this blitz "win" by altering the chances of success in the code.

Simulations need to keep within the programmed parameters or it ceases to be a simulation. Any of the originial programmers can prevent this, but at what cost to the simulation experience for those who play within the constraints?

[stormbringer951]

I think he recruits all the jihad units possible in the unit pools of the East.

[TheTrueGreek]

id try that, but id screw up, lose half my cities and quit

[Dunecat]

Jesus ing Christ!

TWC must answer with our own competitor!

The M2TW Olympics has begun...

[stormbringer951]

Most Troops killed by a single artillery unit:
Most troops killed by a general's bodyguard (not captured)
Most captured prisoners
Quickest Victory
Quickest Domination (conquer the map)
Best K/D ratio
Youngest 10 star general