End of Catholicism???

**Lukianos** · August 13, 2008, 04:21 PM

So... in my M/H campaign, I seem to have run out of cardinals... and there is no pope. I've had priests in Greece and the east converting like crazy, but their piety never seems to go up... any ideas as to what is going on??? How do I get a real pope (there is NO Pope at the moment... kinda funny) lol

Random sidenote - where to my screenshots go? There is no main folder in the MTW directory...

**khorne1989** · August 13, 2008, 04:26 PM

There no cardinals at all? ...wow...well the only way you can get a cardinal is with a pope..lol....but there is another way...

click a priest of your choice,open consol, type in , give_trait this PriestLevel 2

EDIT. before you do that use the chance and invade a couple countries since you won't be excomunnicated

**htothehh** · August 13, 2008, 04:29 PM

If you just used the "Prnt Scrn" key, then you'll have to paste it onto another document.

As of your lack of Cardinals, try to get a theologians guild in your largest city. Don't recruit a priest in each and every city, try to recruit all of them from one city. Once you get a theologians guild, your newly recruited priests will have higher piety than others. Look at this screenshot from my campaign.

**moosey** · August 13, 2008, 04:33 PM

all print screen images are saved in youre MIITW tga folder

**Lukianos** · August 13, 2008, 04:36 PM

Man I didn't even think of the theologians guild... and yeah, there are NO cardinals whatsoever lol
13 open seats! Seemed kinda improbable. Something fishy with the AI??

And I don't have the tga folder.. it's just not there. lol

**D'aubusson** · August 13, 2008, 06:01 PM

This happened to me when I was playing as Ireland once. Build up to at least a Cathedral in once city. Usually they get enough traits and ancillary to get 5 piety, the minimum to be a Cardinal. And since there is no Pope, this newly crowned Cardinal also became Pope. I then fully filled the College of Cardinals with the Oirish.

**Mauzeer** · August 13, 2008, 06:43 PM

@Lukianos
really strange never seen smth like that bfr, when i send priests in other religon region their piety goes up like crazy, even they are only blessed priests :hmmm:

**Lukianos** · August 13, 2008, 11:01 PM

So the great news. I demo'd a thieves guild in Venice (I didn't build it, the computer did

) and started pumping out priests... soon after I had a theologians guild and a cathedral. Now I have a HRE Pope, and 9/13 Cardinals are HRE. Solved that issue pretty easily

Now I have 180 turns to get another 50 terretories, thanks for the advice guys!