Islam in Focus

[The Cobra]

Islam in Focus

http://www.islamicbulletin.com/services/books.htm
I'm tired of all those posts saying Islam is evil...etc, if you want to judge a religion, a nation, a civilisation.....Read about it first.
An Ignorant person isn't a person lacking knowledge, it's the one who talk's without knowledge.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Thanks for sharing.

[Beregorn]

I don't think Islam is evil. It's just some peoples interpretation of Islam which is bad. For example, Quran states that killing innocent people is wrong. Yet suicidal bombers still claim that they're doing it for Allah.

[boofhead]

I don't think Islam is evil.

I do.

[Phalanx300]

I do.

Ditto to that.

[motiv-8]

I don't think Islam is evil. It's just some peoples interpretation of Islam which is bad. For example, Quran states that killing innocent people is wrong. Yet suicidal bombers still claim that they're doing it for Allah.

So blame the person, not the religion.

Maybe it takes both working together to kill people. Ideas without people can't hurt, and people without ideas can't hurt. Put 'em together and all sorts of crazy things happen.

The problem with your argument is that, anthropologically speaking, people have been killing people before the inception of religion or any other sort of ideology.

Even if you take the Book of Genesis into account, Cain killing Abel had nothing to do with ideology, but basic human imperfections.

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

I don't think Islam is evil. It's just some peoples interpretation of Islam which is bad. For example, Quran states that killing innocent people is wrong. Yet suicidal bombers still claim that they're doing it for Allah.

World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.

If you take away an individual's land, his dignity, his weapons, his tanks, his air force and his economy, he will fight with whatever he gets his hands on. Religion has nothing to do with this.

[Gauvin]

For example, Quran states that killing innocent people is wrong.

How the Muslims of that period, including Muhammad, defined innocent people, and how you define innocent people are probably very different.... unless of course you believe polytheism is worse than having sex slaves.

[Admiral Piett]

I think if a lot of Christians looked more deeply at Biblical text, there is a lot of similar violent things as well. I just think people should take spiritual texts too literally. It usually has ill effect.

In this modern age, people should connect their social values of today with the traditional ones and find a good median. That's usually what people do.

[ReBeLLioN]

Viewing suicide bombers as typical muslims is like viewing the KKK as typical christians. It all depends on how you get your information. The news media seems to focus on the negative aspects of islam, which shapes many of our opinions.

Many people actually need to have something to dispise to feel proud of who they are. As if clarifying who they do not want to be, refreshes their personal identity.

typical western mentality: We are christians. We are not perfect, but we are good people. They are muslims. They are further from perfect than we are, and some of them dont like us. So I'm just not going to like any of them. Plus they wear funny towels on their heads.

The funniest part is that both religions have more similarities than diffrences. I'm just glad I began to reject the brainwash pattern at age 12 so I don't have to play the "my god is better than your god" game of pointless bickery.

If god does exist, he most likely created you equal. Some people, no matter what their religous denomination, will head down the path of violence. It's not just one or the other. I was raised a christian and also had the chance to get to know some Jews and some Muslims. The major thing I noticed is that we are all the same. All we want is to love those close to us, get a few good meals in our bellys, and get our rocks off from time to time.

[Ummon]

The problem with ignorance is that it is adjudicated based one one's culture. A genius may look very ignorant and stupid to someone who doesn't have the prerequisites to evaluate the ideas he expresses.

[Rich86]

As if clarifying who they do not want to be, refreshes their personal identity.

Agreed - it's easy to say what you're not - but it's harder to say who you are and what you stand for.

[Shaun]

A religion - all religions - are merely a set of ideas and beliefs, which are subject to change by the people following them to suit their own needs. A religion itself, therefore, is not evil; the people who do bad things, whether using religion as a justification or not, are. Islam itself is coming under too much criticism - it's as if many people think that if there was no Islam we'd all be holding hands signing together.

[Ummon]

The combination of ideas, as artifacts humans use to interact with reality, can have profound effects on our behaviour. Therefore sets of ideas can be (more or less) evil.

[Shaun]

But ideas themselves commit no action. It is humans that commit action. It is humans that allow ideas to influence their behaviour.

[Bovril]

Its not humans that commit evil, its the interaction of certain parts of the nervous system with certain other parts of the anatomy in order to create certain motions that have certain effects on the outside world.

No, its the culmination of socio-historical forces finding inevitable expression in an individual instance.

No, it's the eternal strugle of God and Satan animating the actions of humans in the battle for possesion of their souls.

If you're going to play that game, you can aleviate anything of resposibility for anything.

The point is, ideas have a role to play in 'evil'. It like the old argument idiots have along the lines "guns kill people" "no, humans kill people". Maybe it takes both working together to kill people. Ideas without people can't hurt, and people without ideas can't hurt. Put 'em together and all sorts of crazy things happen.

And, lastly, what does it mean to say humans 'allow' ideas to influence them. How could they stop an idea from influencing them? Presumably through the use of another idea. Do you see where this is goning?

[Shaun]

Yes but ultimately people are responsible for carrying out the idea.

[Bovril]

Yes but ultimately, ideas are responsible for manipulating people to act on them....

You might do better to argue that ideas do not have independent existence, but are merely names for agregate features of humans' individual consciousnesses.

[finsternis]

The reason why people think that Islam is evil is because of all the violence in the middle east.
It is funny, one girl in High School told me "they are always killing other people. Christians don;t do that" and then I told her "ever heard of the Crusades and the Inquisition?" and she said "that was long time ago".

I love how people think that if something happened long time ago that makes it not a bad thing. Christians did it long time ago, now the Muslims are doing it. No difference (except that they are using K2s instead of swords).


But religions can be evil if they encourage hate, murder and intolerance. So, yeah, almost every religion in the world is evil (including al-Islam).

[AngryTitusPullo]

The reason why people think that Islam is evil is because of all the violence in the middle east.
It is funny, one girl in High School told me "they are always killing other people. Christians don;t do that" and then I told her "ever heard of the Crusades and the Inquisition?" and she said "that was long time ago".

You mean you don't have daily crimes in your own country ? Wow..

Or was it murders, rape and robbery are commited by muslim immigrants in your country ? :hmmm: