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    Default DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    http://ve3d.ign.com/images/fullsize/...ht-Simulator-X

    Of course DX10 looks better, but look at the water and think for a second; does lake water really look like that? I was camping near a lake for a week and quite honestly, the water in DX9 looked like the lake.

    Does anyone else think that DX9 water is better?

    (AND I AM NOT COMPLAINING SO NO FLAMES.)

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    They both have different lighting and weather which doesn't help. Erm... ...which one's which? I'm not a graphics nut and I've never played on a DX10 game so cant tell. I prefer the bottom one - the top looks too glossy to be real.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Clone View Post
    http://ve3d.ign.com/images/fullsize/...ht-Simulator-X

    Of course DX10 looks better, but look at the water and think for a second; does lake water really look like that? I was camping near a lake for a week and quite honestly, the water in DX9 looked like the lake.

    Does anyone else think that DX9 water is better?

    (AND I AM NOT COMPLAINING SO NO FLAMES.)
    The DirectX 10 version looks amazing, but I have a couple of issues with this.

    1) Microsoft Flight Simulator - Key word here is Microsoft, they are the ones who are pushing DX10 so it's in their interests to show DX10 in the best light possiable.

    2) Possible Dirty Tricks - Have a look at he DX9 screenshot again and the DX10 screentshot. Is the DX9 shot really the best MS could produce under DX9? I wouldn't be surprised if you could replicate the same DX10 result under DX9 or get something very near to it. I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to have deliberately generated a less then impressive DX9 engine just so it looks bad next to DX10.

    Then again I could be wrong and DX10 is that good and DX9 has exhausted.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    I'm fairly certain it's confirmed that the "DX10" picture is an artists rendition of what Microsoft wanted Flight Simulator X to look like in DX10 mode.

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    To me it looks as though the water in the second one is an actual photograph of a lake merged with the rendered scenery...

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    Yup, the "DX10" shot was just an artist's rendering. FSX in DX10 doesn't look nearly that good

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Honestly the water in DX9 looks more realistic for a lake than the DX10 water.

    The DX10 water looks more like water from a swiftly flowing river than a lake.
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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    Honestly the water in DX9 looks more realistic for a lake than the DX10 water.

    The DX10 water looks more like water from a swiftly flowing river than a lake.

    The DX10 water looked like ocean water to me.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    The DX10 water looks more like water, which is most important to me. It even has the froth and texture of a windy, rippling lake, or ocean, or whatever. DX9 water looks like a rippling sheet of glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Clone View Post
    The DX10 water looked like ocean water to me.
    It just looks a bit more choppy to me like there's a strong wind - which could be because one has large grey clouds above. As an Englishman the DX9 one looks freeky coz we never have clear skies and the water would never be that still lol

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    Some of you seriously think the DX9 water looks better than the DX10's "artist rendition?" Surely I'm being punk'd.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    I just said it looks more realistic, unless it was a VERY windy day a lake of that size wouldn't be anywhere near that rough.

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    If the DX10 would get rid of the white froth and cut down on the choppiness some, then it would be the best, but it seems like they are just trying to show off their effects at the expense of realism. Compare it to the "Bloom craze" when DX9 came out. The dx10 certainly looks prettier, but not as realistic.
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    Realism?! Check the reflections in the DX9 one - they look rediculous. It also looks rediculously shiny. I agree the DX10 one is doctored and it proberably looks worse than that but come on when you accept that the two have differing weather conditions the DX10 is much closer to real choppy water when compared to the DX9 doing still water.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Did you see the reflections in the actual photo I posted?
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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    Did you see the reflections in the actual photo I posted?
    Yes the photo is different to the DX9 one. The DX9 one is too shiny and wobbly instead of being fuzzy like the photo.

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    DX10 looks real.... 0_o....
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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelchair View Post
    DX10 looks real.... 0_o....
    I think we came to the conclusion that it's actually an "artist's rendition" in which real water was photoshopped in

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    Yeah the DX9 one looks ridiculously fake - the water in TES: Morrowind looked better than that. The DX10 one looks like a real lake on a windy day (Since it's from an actual picture apparently), as everyone seems to agree but some seem to find troublesome (??).

    I live not even 5 miles from a "lake that size", and it frequently looks like that. When it's not choppy, it still doesn't look anything like the DX9 pic.

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    Default Re: DX9 vs. DX10 Water.

    So if the photo only contains photoshopped water, then what does real DX10 water look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman Clone View Post
    So if the photo only contains photoshopped water, then what does real DX10 water look like?
    Virtually identical to DX9 water

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