how to create one immortal character

[LordN00KE]

So, is there a way to make just one character immortal? I'm thinking about maybe a script so when my character dies the same guy will rise in some place in the campaign map. Cause that would be cool

[Furin]

Wouldn't be the "same" guy when it comes to traits, age, position and such but you can spawn a character with the same name indefinitly.

Let's see, something like (not tested so might be wrong)

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType FactionIsLocal
if I_LocalFaction france
and not I_CharacterExists Thibaut Pastforeire
spawn_army
faction france
character    Thibaut Pastforeire, named character, age 25, x 24 y 249 
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , GoodCommander 1 , BattleDread 2 , Genocide 2
unit        NE Bodyguard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end
end_if
end_monitor

If I didn't screw up this should spawn the character as general (not family memeber) indefinitly through the campaign at a fixed location (must be outside settlement else he will spawn "on top" of that settlement, or fort)

Edit: kicked out some mod specific traits

[LordN00KE]

Now all I need to do is change the name and faction right?
Is is save compatible or do i have to restart the game?
I need to put this in campaign_script.txt right?

[Furin]

As a rule of thumb everything inside the campaign folder, like the campaign script, needs you to start a new campaign. Name, faction, coordinates, traits (possibly unit type of bodyguard unit) needs to be changed to your liking, and I wrote this out of my head so it might not work at all

Look's like it would work though. And it only spawns this character for the player.

Edit: You can find valid names in descr_names.txt

[LordN00KE]

so in descr_strat
character Zhen Jin, named character, male, age 21, x 504, y 154 command 7, dread 7, loyalty 7, piety 1
traits GoodCommander 5, MilitaryInclination 1 , EasternWarlord 3 , Disciplinarian 1 , Anger 2 , BattleDread 3 , StrategyDread 3 , PublicFaith 2, TouchedByTheGods 1 , Loyal 2, ContentGeneral 3 , ReligionStarter 1
unit Mongol Bodyguard exp 9 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1



in custom_script.txt(stainless steel 6.1 late era campaign)
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType FactionIsLocal
if I_LocalFaction mongols
and not I_CharacterExists Zhen Jin
spawn_army
faction mongols
character Zhen Jin, named character, age 25, x 498, y 155
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , EasternWarlord 3 GoodCommander 5 , BattleDread 3, MilitaryInclination 1, Genocide 2, Disciplinarian 1, TouchedByTheGods 1, CharacterAges 1, TurnsAlive 1, StrategyDread 3, ContentGeneral 3, Loyal 2
unit Mongol Bodyguard exp 9 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
end
end_if
end_monitor

Ctd 21:18:56.027 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit. Can you find out why?

[Furin]

What does the logfile say?

You know what, I'll be back. I check the script in a campaign here.

[LordN00KE]

log says this
21:36:37.356 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
21:36:37.356 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Feb 25 2008 version development ===
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
21:36:37.371 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
21:36:40.121 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/descr_mount.txt, at line 583, column 1
Could not find battle model for mount 'Mount_Barded_Horse_Kiev'.
21:37:48.027 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

ignore the Mount_Barded_Horse_Kiev it's a won't crash the game

[Gigantus]

It will crash when you start a battle.

[LordN00KE]

No actually it won't. That's why they ignore it (the sub mode author)

[LordN00KE]

declare_counter immortal
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
if I_LocalFaction mongols
set_counter immortal 1
end_if
if not I_CharacterExists Thibaut Pastforeire
and I_CompareCounter immortal = 1
spawn_army
faction mongols
character Zhen Jin, named character, age 25, x 24 y 249
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , GoodCommander 1 , BattleDread 2 , Genocide 2 , CharacterAges 1, TurnsAlive 1
unit Mongol Bodyguard exp 9 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1

end
end_if
end_monitor

there's nothing wrong with my dercs_start right?

[Furin]

declare_counter immortal
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
if I_LocalFaction mongols
set_counter immortal 1
end_if
if not I_CharacterExists Thibaut Pastforeire
and I_CompareCounter immortal = 1
spawn_army
faction mongols
character Zhen Jin, named character, age 25, x 24 y 249
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , GoodCommander 1 , BattleDread 2 , Genocide 2 , CharacterAges 1, TurnsAlive 1
unit Mongol Bodyguard exp 9 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephant Firethrowers exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1

end
end_if
end_monitor

there's nothing wrong with my dercs_start right?

watch the bold parts, name, traits, coordinates (has nothing at all to do with strat file, unless the Zhen Jin guy is present at gamestart, then it will only spawn him as soon as he dies. Better to remove him from strat file for the time being to see if the script works for you.

Also, Zhen Jin is not family! If the strat file Zhen Jin IS family, you need to redo the whole family tree when testing. Just choose a different name in that case to save you the hassle...

[Gigantus]

You are going to have a problem there I think. You are checking for one character and are spawning a different one. (Check for John, spawn Tim) And why not keeping him a general? You might otherwise run into all sorts of problems as Furin pointed out.

[LordN00KE]

Zhen jin doesn't exist in the game I change the coordinate so that he'll spawn near another character. Still I have ctd with nothing on the log file. Any Ideas I copied the traits from another character. The name Zhen jin and Khan is in the descr_names.txt.

declare_counter immortal
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
if I_LocalFaction mongols
set_counter immortal 1
end_if
if not I_CharacterExists Zhen Jin Khan
and I_CompareCounter immortal = 1
spawn_army
faction mongols
character Zhen Jin Khan, named character, age 25, x 494, y 162
traits EasternWarlord 3 , Disciplinarian 1 , BattleDread 3 , StrategyDread 3 , PublicFaith 2, TouchedByTheGods 1 , Loyal 2, ContentGeneral 3 , GoodCommander 5 , FactionKiller 4
unit Mongol Bodyguard exp 9 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Mongol Heavy Archers exp 9 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit Elephants exp 9 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1

end
end_if
end_monitor

I put this in custom_script.txt just before
end_script

[Furin]

Well, it's weird that you get a CTD, if there was an error in the script, it would usually say "couldn't create script" but the game would still start. If the name was not correct it would say "couldn't create character" and still run.

So, nope, I am out of ideas, I know that the second script i posted works, at least in my campaign. (Zhen Jin Khan can't work like that because it's three words, should prolly be Zhen Jin_Khan or just Zhen Jin, but like I said, this wouldn't make it crash)

The army is from the strat file right? So it cannot be because of a non existing unit or something like that?

[LordN00KE]

LOL it worked. Is there a way so that I can add a new name? Do I add the new name in descr_names.txt? I think I'm gonna name the character Furin.

[Furin]

Pfew, I'd suggest you first check if the script is really working as intended. Aka get the guy killed and see if he respawns. When that works like it should we can talk about changing names (Furin the Merciless XD)

[LordN00KE]

It worked he spawned back a turn later. Now, about Furin the Merciless how do I do that? I know how to add the Merciless but to add Furin I don't really know.

[Furin]

To add a name to a faction you need to add it in descr_names.txt (/data) and names.txt (/data/text), then delete the bin files in /text and restart a campaign. If the name isn't shown in the character sheet you got a typo somewhere, this isn't good because the game will crash as soon as it wants to assign a trait to that character. The name can be taken by any slave character, also heretics.

So I'd suggest just staying with what is working, use a surname in the script to lower the chance for duplicate characters and have fun with your "immortal" general

[LordN00KE]

How do I make 2 Immortals? Do I use the same script?
[edit] I already found a way]

[Furin]

good job