Texture for mercenary_unit

[CIaagent11]

I noticed that armenian Steppe Horse Archers only have that white, colorless look.
So I figured the modders forgot to add a texture in DMB, and I want to add one.
If the unit is a mercenary_unit, for which faction do I have to add the texture?
I dont fully understand this mercenary_unit thing.
Somehow the unit description pics go in a different folder, but do they ALSO go in the folder for that faction?
So if a unit has the mercenaty_unit attribute, should the unit description tga only be in the merc or mercs folder?
How about the textures then?

I searched, but I don't really know what this is called, so I don't really know what to search for.

type aux horse archers
dictionary steppe_horse_archers ; light archers
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier steppe_archers, 40, 0, 1
mount steppe light horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring,hide_forest,cantabrian_circle,very_hardy,can_swim, mercenary_unit, no_custom
formation 3, 4, 6, 6, 3,square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5,2, arrow, 120, 40, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5,4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0,10, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 2, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, 0, -6, 1
stat_mental 18,normal,untrained
stat_charge_dist 200
stat_fire_delay -150000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 0, 280, 180, 40, 60, 280
ownership roman, huns, eastern

[Aradan]

You don't use a faction's name in the texture line, you use "merc" instead. As long as a unit has the merc_unit attribute, it will use the "merc" skin under any owner. And the UI cards go into the UI/unit_info(or units)/merc/ folder.

[CIaagent11]

You don't use a faction's name in the texture line, you use "merc" instead. As long as a unit has the merc_unit attribute, it will use the "merc" skin under any owner. And the UI cards go into the UI/unit_info(or units)/merc/ folder.

Sooo, a unit with the mercenary_unit attribute does not need its info pic in any other
factions folder than the merc one, and there should be no other texture line in DMB than merc?

[DaVinci]

Correct.

And you can check this unit out if you comment out no_custom (like: ; no_custom) in the custom battle mode with the factions that have them in ownership as you did.

The used horse needs as well the merc texture line, while this gives me issues in the Chivalry mod, when i have mountained mercenary_unit units coded, but this is special for Chivalry as for a certain texture for all horse textures in this mod.

[CIaagent11]

Thanks.

So if a unit is a mercenary_unit, I can just add it as a recruitement for any faction in EDB?

[DaVinci]

Yes, along this in edu

ownership roman, huns, eastern

[CIaagent11]

Steppe Horse Archers had the colorless, white look in a battle (EDU entry in first post).
Yet, the soldier seems to have a texture for merc.
So what is wrong?

type steppe_archers ; basic horse archer
skeleton fs_s1_hc_archer, fs_hc_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture slave, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture huns, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture empire_east, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture roxolani, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture sassanids, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture lombardi, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture slavs, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 15
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 30
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 40
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, max
model_sprite slave, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite huns, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite empire_east, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite roxolani, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite sassanids, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite lombardi, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite slavs, 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_sprite 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

[Aradan]

Have you checked that the texture itself is ok?

[DaVinci]

Does the horse have the merc texture?

I suggest to make him an extra dmb entry like that, to check the unit out, if it has a relation to the other faction texture lines ...

type steppe_archers_merc ; basic horse archer
skeleton fs_s1_hc_archer, fs_hc_swordsman
indiv_range 40
texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 15
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 30
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, 40
model_flexi IJ/data/models_unit/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.cas, max
model_sprite 60.0, IJ/data/sprites/steppe_archers_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

...of course you'll need to change the soldier model line in edu as well, and just check him in custom battle mode, as i explained above.


EDIT

Parallel written ... lol.

So what is the unit behind him with a texture? Same?
If not, just put this working texture to the merc unit, as it seems the model applies to the texture, as a first test, if it is a texture issue or not.

[CIaagent11]

I have not, it is a texture from the mod Imperium Julianorum.
How do I check it?

[CIaagent11]

Yes. Thank you.

Does the horse have the merc texture?

I checked, and yes, the horse has a texture for merc.

So what is the unit behind him with a texture? Same?
If not, just put this working texture to the merc unit, as it seems the model applies to the texture, as a first test, if it is a texture issue or not.

That is another unit with the same name.
I don't know why there are two.
I guess one is the mercenary version.

They do use the same 'soldier' and 'mount'.

The other unit:

type steppe horse archers
dictionary steppe_horse_archers ; light archers
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier steppe_archers, 50, 0, 1
mount steppe light horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring,hide_forest,cantabrian_circle,very_hardy,can_swim
formation 3, 4, 6, 6, 3,square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5,2, arrow, 130, 40, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5,4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0,10, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 2, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, 0, -6, 1
stat_mental 18,normal,untrained
stat_charge_dist 200
stat_fire_delay -150000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 0, 80, 20, 20, 30, 80
ownership slave, roxolani, sarmatians, sassanids, lombardi, slavs

[Aradan]

Try taking the texture that the other unit uses and replacing with it the texture of the "white" unit (either the .tga file itself or the texture line code in DMB) and see if the new skins works. if it works, then it's the old skin that is at fault, otherwise it is the unit's coding.

[CIaagent11]

What DaVinci said was: take the texture that the other unit uses and replace with it the texture of the "white" unit (either the .tga file itself or the texture line code in DMB) and see if the new skins works. if it works, then it's the old skin that is at fault, otherwise it is the unit's coding.

Thank you both for helping.
The two units use the same texture?!
I posted both EDU entries.

[Aradan]

Edited my above post, I had made a mistake about what DaVinci said.

[CIaagent11]

Edited my above post, I had made a mistake about what DaVinci said.

Yes, but I think they use the same soldier.
My knowledge is limited, but don't they then also use the same texture?

type steppe horse archers
dictionary steppe_horse_archers ; light archers
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier steppe_archers, 50, 0, 1

type aux horse archers
dictionary steppe_horse_archers ; light archers
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier steppe_archers, 40, 0, 1

[Halie Satanus]

The texture is named RGyG_unit_armenian_bow_cav.tga.dds, your DMB entry says RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga

[CIaagent11]

The texture is named RGyG_unit_armenian_bow_cav.tga.dds, your DMB entry says RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga

Oh, I uploaded the wrong file.
Here is the right one.
Just in case anyone would want to check if there is something wrong with it.
But it seems that the texture works fine with the one unit and not with the other.

[Halie Satanus]

There's nothing wrong with the texture. Though you only have one (RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga) coded in any way..

Swap.

texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga

For.

texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_armenian_bow_cav.tga

See if that works, can't think why it would, but it might..

[CIaagent11]

Thanks for testing.

What does this mean:

Though you only have one (RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga) coded in any way..

Do you have a guess why the one unit is "white"?

[CIaagent11]

Swap.

texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_steppe_horse_cav.tga

For.

texture merc, IJ/data/models_unit/textures/RGyG_unit_armenian_bow_cav.tga

See if that works, can't think why it would, but it might..

Did so.

Here's the result: